How Ford Treats the Coyote.
05-10-2016, 11:26 PM
#11
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I actually think the real world FE of the GM 6.2 may be better than the the 3.5EB. I have the 3.5EB and would love the 6.2, but GM pairs them with 3.23 gears (granted with an 8sp) and keeps them under double secret probation. You have as much luck of seeing one of those on a drive to work as finding a leprechaun.
05-11-2016, 02:21 AM
#12
It's a good engine but... It's designed (and associated primarily ) for a mustang. They just happen to throw it in the f150. The mustang must rev to make great power which is the opposite of what a typical truck is designed for when using it as a truck. So towing, hauling etc the other engines far exceed the 5.0 capabilities for torque in the first half of the rpm band. So sure ford could market peak power at stratospheric rpms for a truck but the ecos are more competitive compared to any other gas engine in the segment for usable torque.
05-11-2016, 02:25 AM
#13
So if there's a 4.0L limit for Le Mans IIRC,then where would that leave your 289,427 and Super Charged 5.4L?I'll tell you illegal that's why they're using the 3.5L Eco Boost.
05-11-2016, 02:30 AM
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To me, it seems like Ford treats the 5.0 like the good looking daughter the farmer keeps in the house while he lets his other 2 daughters run around and do as they please. I wonder how many non-car/truck people think Ford dropped their V-8's altogether? The only badging is the Flex Fuel plaque on the tail gate
. I've seen plenty of other engine badging for a whole hell of a lot less engine under the hood! Also, why not bump the power up a little more, the Mustang is rated at 435 with basically the same engine. Main differences are the cams and compression ratio, the bottom end is the same. Absolutely one of the finest V-8's to come out of Detroit.
. I've seen plenty of other engine badging for a whole hell of a lot less engine under the hood! Also, why not bump the power up a little more, the Mustang is rated at 435 with basically the same engine. Main differences are the cams and compression ratio, the bottom end is the same. Absolutely one of the finest V-8's to come out of Detroit.
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05-11-2016, 05:43 AM
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05-11-2016, 06:53 AM
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05-11-2016, 06:57 AM
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And just because it doesn't sound like it's working hard don't for a minute think it isn't. Severe spark knock is much more likely at low rpm high load than higher rpm high load. The EB's operate at much higher cylinder pressures, just like other modern boosted engines.
05-11-2016, 07:19 AM
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05-11-2016, 07:28 AM
#20
Good analogy. I think the 5.0 still accounts for 50% of F150 sales. Ford just markets the EBs like crazy because they've invested so much in the technology.
The 5.0 is the daughter who stays in to do homework, while the EBs are out getting "floored" by every dude in the town haha
The 5.0 is the daughter who stays in to do homework, while the EBs are out getting "floored" by every dude in the town haha