Long bed super crew

 

I don't think you will have any regrets with the 5.0. The Eco motors are for people who don't plan on keeping them that long(carbon buildup). Direct injection and turbos haven't been refined yet that's why there is a long thread on catch cans.

 

troll :-(

 

not quite, been on this forum since 2003 when I bought the "next new F150 2004" which I still have. On forum now to gain info, data, for buying this new gen f150.

 

I retract the troll label but maintain my concern regarding your OPINION that "Eco motors are for people who don't keep them long" and " turbos are unrefined", therefore it must be assumed that 5.0s are the way to go.... Just for info, I turned in a 2015 5.0 with 3.55 gears because coming from a 3.5 Eco, I couldn't get used to the lack of readily available power that the 3.5TT had.. Also took a 2 mpg hit in fuel mileage... The 5.0 is a great motor but the 2015 Eco I replaced it with has me grinning again. I don't believe your comment that I previously referenced is based on factual info as much as perceived ideology. I have had no major issues with either of the two 5.0 engines or the two Eco engines that I have had the pleasure to own..

 

So this 502 package has auto high beams on it wondering if any body has this and how annoying it will be and can it be turned off.

 

Thanks for retracting the troll label. Long term.... If you have had two Eco's since 2011 you didn't have them long term. It takes some miles for the carbon to buildup. Not everyone will have problems, direct injection's are just more prone to problems even worse with turbos adding dirty air. Anyway that's not what this post is about. I'm sure your EB will be fine.

 

If 100k miles without having to de-carbon the intake valves is not long term then you won't be convinced... I am a mechanic shop owner as well as technician and I know first hand some of the inherent problems with GDI engines.. Volkswagen is the company that needs help on redesigning intake cleaning properties on their engines :-( the way I see it, something like removing an intake to manually de-carbon intake valves around 100k is no different than changing a timing belt at 80 to 100k and I don't hear people griping about having to change a timing belt! It's called maintenance. Anyone who thinks these engines are coking up at 50k is ignorant. Many of them will go far beyond 100k with no engine work.. We have not seen any significant issues out of these motors aside from the well documented inter cooler condensate ingestion and subsequent spark quench.
Also, explain how a turbo " adds dirty air " all factory turbos I have seen are only compressing FILTERED air..

 

I'm sure like you say, The EB is a very reliable maintenance free engine not prone to carbon on the intake valves up to 100k miles. Dirty meaning moisture mixed with the air. More prevalent in EB turbos. Its a fact proven auto industry wide that GDI's are not as reliable as port injected motors. Automakers have to get the mpg UP so everybody is using the GDI for immediate gains on paper. 10 years from now there may not be a port injected motor, but the GDI will be a whole lot different.

 

They seem to work really well for the people who use the feature. I have it and don't use it. Yes, it can be disabled from the instrument cluster.