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Frozen or Inoperative Door Latch During Freezing Temps ***TSB 16-0155***

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Old 02-06-2017, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Red-line
I wold tend to disagree.
Upon speaking to my assigned customer service manager, she seems to be unaware, or unwilling to share, how widespread this issue is.
I informed her that a simple google search of the TSB number brings up hundreds of posts spread over may discussion forums with customers complaining that the issue is not resolved by TSB 16-0155.

I would expect the Ford reps on this and other forums to be gathering information and trend details to be communicated to the customer service reps and Ford engineers. An official communication and or statement should be made to affected customers at the very least. This whole fiasco should have been a recall, and I'm surprised it still is not.

It's sad when we the customers seem to be more aware of the situation than the ford reps themselves.
Lets be honest here though, the Ford customer service reps are nothing more than someone at a call center. I spoke with a customer service manager when i started having this problem. He had no access to parts information, he had no access to TSB information, he had no access to anything but to my dealership and the service manager. He said countless times that he would call me back but has yet to do that... It was months ago. What I do hope that he did is report this information back so we can get something going here... show them that this resolution did not fix anything.
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Old 02-06-2017, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by catmatton
The way I feel is the more we communicate with them hopefully the more that they can pass it along to someone to get something accomplished. I never use them as a punching bag I respect their help and hope that with working with them we can get something accomplished

I talked to my dealer often about this issue and I understand that they are doing everything possible for issue however their hands are tied because of Fords lack of a resolution to this issue.
Sorry... I would like to correct this.. the Ford Social Media Team and Ford Customer service team are absolutely useless....

In talking to the social team (Forums and Facebook) they could care less and advise you to deal with your dealership and they won't be forwarding any information. Us customers are left clueless of a solution just as the dealerships are!
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Originally Posted by Red-line
I wold tend to disagree.
Upon speaking to my assigned customer service manager, she seems to be unaware, or unwilling to share, how widespread this issue is.
I informed her that a simple google search of the TSB number brings up hundreds of posts spread over may discussion forums with customers complaining that the issue is not resolved by TSB 16-0155.

I would expect the Ford reps on this and other forums to be gathering information and trend details to be communicated to the customer service reps and Ford engineers. An official communication and or statement should be made to affected customers at the very least. This whole fiasco should have been a recall, and I'm surprised it still is not.

It's sad when we the customers seem to be more aware of the situation than the ford reps themselves.
I don't think they are not aware, but they cannot acknowledge it. I have been down this road with issues with Ford before for faulty brakes on an Edge. When i talked with Ford, they said they were not aware of any issues. I told them about the Edge Forum and just google it to find many people with the same issues but the rep told me they cannot validate second hand info, just what the company has confirmed for them. So basically ignore and deny any and all issues that Ford does not want to acknowledge, have no answer for or do not want to pay out for.

At this point, there should be a recall for the locks, but i doubt they will ever do that unless people get injured from it. I have been waiting over a month now and am losing hope it will be repaired successfully anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by Nicklaus

Well, make sure to let us know by Monday if you (they !) learned something !
Well ford regional managers supervisor called me and said graphite lubricant is the fix for the updated tsb frozen locks. Hahaha! She also said the service advisor couldn't duplicate the latch frozen with me standing right their with him. We duplicated both front and rear pass door not latching. He said it would latch if he closed the door then pushed in on it. That's after the truck ran for about 10 min loading and unloading it. I got it all on video. They are looking for a way out! Not gonna pull a fast one on me.

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My issues so far have been isolated the driver door, luckily I don't take my kids very often, as my wife takes them to school. Seems the only work around is to lock the door before closing it. I haven't had any issues with them staying frozen shut....just they won't latch when I get out. Definitely happens once the truck has warmed up, not when I first get in and its cold. Has happened multiple times once i get to work....driver door won't latch. I have yet to bring it into the dealer, just waiting to see if there is any resolution from posts here before I drop it off for who knows how long.....weather has been up and down in Buffalo, NY this winter, can't imagine if it was seriously cold like past years.
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I think Ford has enough problems right now with door issues, I am guessing they are trying to put this one off as long as they can before addressing it.

I go in this week for my TSB repair that has been waiting for parts since December.




Ford Expands Door Latch Safety Recall in North America

DEARBORN, Mich., Sept. 8, 2016 – Ford Motor Company is expanding a previously announced safety recall regarding door latches to include approximately 1,500,000 additional vehicles at the request of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, bringing the total to 2,383,292 vehicles. Affected vehicles include 2013-15 Ford C-MAX and Ford Escape, 2012-15 Ford Focus, 2015 Ford Mustang and Lincoln MKC and 2014-16 Ford Transit Connect.
In the affected vehicles, the pawl spring tab in the side door latch could break. A door latch with a fractured pawl spring tab typically results in a “door-will-not-close” condition. A door that opens while driving increases the risk of injury.
Ford has identified one reported accident and three reported injuries that may be related to this issue.

There are 2,383,292 vehicles affected in this recall, including 2,046,297 in the United States and federalized territories, 233,034 in Canada and 61,363 in Mexico.
Dealers will replace side door latches at no cost to the customer.
Customers who want to know if their vehicle is included in this recall can visit www.ford.com, click on safety recalls at the bottom of the page and enter their vehicle identification number.
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Originally Posted by Great white
I am beginning to doubt Ford's testing regime with regards to cold and wet environment robustness.....
Agreed. So far, I've been lucky about door latches freezing since our winter has been pretty mild, but I've had issues with the rear sensors following a heavy rain. Usually, the tailgate sensor goes off when I put the truck in reverse and the cross traffic sensors don't seem to operate when a vehicle is approaching. The truck also tends to run a little rough after a heavy rain. These issues seem to go away once things have dried out, but it does make one wonder about how these trucks were tested in extreme weather. People do tend to buy full size body-on-frame trucks without worrying about cold and wet environments.
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Originally Posted by Red-line
I wold tend to disagree.
Upon speaking to my assigned customer service manager, she seems to be unaware, or unwilling to share, how widespread this issue is.
I informed her that a simple google search of the TSB number brings up hundreds of posts spread over may discussion forums with customers complaining that the issue is not resolved by TSB 16-0155.

I would expect the Ford reps on this and other forums to be gathering information and trend details to be communicated to the customer service reps and Ford engineers. An official communication and or statement should be made to affected customers at the very least. This whole fiasco should have been a recall, and I'm surprised it still is not.

It's sad when we the customers seem to be more aware of the situation than the ford reps themselves.
You need to have parts to resolve a recall. I think the only thing more embarrassing than not mastering the door latch after a century in the automotive business is announcing a recall without having parts available to fix your products after telling everyone they're broken. Sadly this will probably be buried as a TSB until someone gets killed.
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My drivers side, rear SCAB door, lower latch froze this morning and would not latch. I don't see any parts listed for that? So tonight I cranked up the heat on the way home, getting a bit unbearable but hey, it latched when I got home Great truck if you don't need to use it in the winter LOL.
Door latches, windshield washers, ice build up between running board and rear doors sometimes so much you cant open them.
Man, I would love to get a job at Ford on the cold weather test team, seems like they sat in their motel room until it got warmer LOL
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I'm thinking not so much......
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