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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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I have factory hid's on my '14 xlt. Kind of a rare option for an xlt. Would it be a good idea to change to led's?
No and don't think you can even if you wanted.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:51 PM
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GM already eliminated halogen on their 1500s for 2016. I have to say, I'm pretty damn jealous that ALL 2016 Chevy/GMC 1500s get HID or LED headlights, standard, regardless of trim. Ford makes you spend $50,000 before you get the nicer headlights.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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As much as I want your business... if you already have HID on your vehicle it's really a choice you'd have to make. I can say that the LED kits I sell have more light output... but you've already invested into that HID option from the factory. And IF they are factory HID lights, they have a better housing. Your factory HID's are better then if someone tried to put HID in a halogen housing, since HID doesn't offer much in the way of adjustability in the beam pattern. However the LED's are not too expensive and would be an improvement I think. I'm not sure what the lumens are on the factory HID systems, but I heard some people are not too happy with them.

You could always try them out and if you like them, awesome. If they don't work you'd have no problem selling them. I'm sure they'd be a big improvement though.

That's like asking someone with a plasma that works, if they should upgrade to LED. Sure there are some benefits, but are the added benefits worth the price?
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 08:59 PM
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US spec halogens have a poor pattern compared to Euro spec housings.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4TruckLEDS.com
As much as I want your business... if you already have HID on your vehicle it's really a choice you'd have to make. I can say that the LED kits I sell have more light output... but you've already invested into that HID option from the factory. And IF they are factory HID lights, they have a better housing. Your factory HID's are better then if someone tried to put HID in a halogen housing, since HID doesn't offer much in the way of adjustability in the beam pattern. However the LED's are not too expensive and would be an improvement I think. I'm not sure what the lumens are on the factory HID systems, but I heard some people are not too happy with them. You could always try them out and if you like them, awesome. If they don't work you'd have no problem selling them. I'm sure they'd be a big improvement though. That's like asking someone with a plasma that works, if they should upgrade to LED. Sure there are some benefits, but are the added benefits worth the price?
Except the OEM projector housings will not accept the LED bulbs, the HIDs are ds3 I believe which ther LEDs are for the H series type mounting.

I'd love to see real world lumen output numbers. You say these LEDs with 4 diodes each has more actual lumen output than proper HIDs? I call BS! Hell, the BS, low cost HIDs I had in my halogen housings were way brighter (real world) than the LED drop ins I tried!

When you talk about the lumens, don't take the manufactures word for it, anyone who is in the lighting game knows max lumens from LEDs don't last at all due to the excessive heat they create to get those max lumens. That's why these companies use ribbon, fans, and other snake oil to claim they are cooled to get those lumens when OEM LEDs have huge heatsinkings to dispatch heat.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 09:14 PM
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The standard halogen is quickly dying. Even the LED lighting on our trucks is probably going to change. When this 300 lb gorilla starts hinting to the auto industry what will positively influence their ratings the most, the auto industry does listen.

http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...-on-headlights
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JOAT79
Maybe GM saw some foreshadowing with HID/LED in the truck line, or just tried to stay afloat on the feature end. It looks like they just tested midsize in their initial tests, but it should trickle down to other models, right? I would welcome this in all vehicles going forward. Who knows? Thoughts?
Originally Posted by moford21
GM already eliminated halogen on their 1500s for 2016. I have to say, I'm pretty damn jealous that ALL 2016 Chevy/GMC 1500s get HID or LED headlights, standard, regardless of trim. Ford makes you spend $50,000 before you get the nicer headlights.
I'm guessing that GM decided to step it up in the technology department since they're trying to compete with their last generation of steel-bodied trucks.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:33 PM
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You guys do realize that most of the cars got poor ratings not because of light output, but do to poor aiming. I was driving my flex tonight, and it will light up a road sign a quarter of a mile away if I am on a rise, but on level ground they are pointed down to far. They even stated in the report, most of the vehicles would benefit from re-aiming. A lot of those that got less than a good rating, were HIDs. I also find it telling that the best headlights were on a Hybrid? No political agenda in that one.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:36 PM
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You should always re-aim your headlights when you replace bulbs (even halogen bulbs) as every bulb is manufactured slightly different.

Same goes for when you lift your vehicles btw, which should be common sense.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 4x4TruckLEDS.com
You should always re-aim your headlights when you replace bulbs (even halogen bulbs) as every bulb is manufactured slightly different. Same goes for when you lift your vehicles btw, which should be common sense.
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