Catch can issues
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From: NOVA
I've got the UPR dual catch can system installed on my 2016 3.5 Ecoboost. And, I like it. I dump the dirty side catch can every couple thousand miles, and am happy to not have that gunk running into my intake. On this engine, it is personal preference.
On the one hand, Ford doesn't design the engine with a catch cans system because it can meet EPA requirements more cheaply and simply by routing the vapors to the intake. Also, the catch can system requires maintenance that most users do not want to perform.
And, on the other, on the F150 catch cans don't provide any "cheap insurance" or engine maintainability improvement.
I like that it is a cleaner alternative for the intake. That is personal preference. A well-designed system doesn't throw codes or interfere with engine operation. I'm used to re-routing the breathers on my bikes where I can incorporate the system in a manner that does provide performance benefit. And on the 3.5 Ecoboost, I like keeping that quart of condensed moisture and gunk out of the intake plumbing each month or two. On the F150 it's not a performance enhancer, so people who don't want to use one, shouldn't...
On the one hand, Ford doesn't design the engine with a catch cans system because it can meet EPA requirements more cheaply and simply by routing the vapors to the intake. Also, the catch can system requires maintenance that most users do not want to perform.
And, on the other, on the F150 catch cans don't provide any "cheap insurance" or engine maintainability improvement.
I like that it is a cleaner alternative for the intake. That is personal preference. A well-designed system doesn't throw codes or interfere with engine operation. I'm used to re-routing the breathers on my bikes where I can incorporate the system in a manner that does provide performance benefit. And on the 3.5 Ecoboost, I like keeping that quart of condensed moisture and gunk out of the intake plumbing each month or two. On the F150 it's not a performance enhancer, so people who don't want to use one, shouldn't...
Last edited by gpojunk; Apr 20, 2017 at 03:25 PM.
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If you want OEM oil that's great.
If you are looking for other options we have 3 lines of engine oils for Gasoline engines. (With good NOACK numbers)
And as far as the "Magical" stuff goes. You must be looking at the Catalog pricing on the corporate website. Forum members get much better pricing.
I did the oil in my 2016 5.0 for less than $70.
If you are looking for other options we have 3 lines of engine oils for Gasoline engines. (With good NOACK numbers)
And as far as the "Magical" stuff goes. You must be looking at the Catalog pricing on the corporate website. Forum members get much better pricing.
I did the oil in my 2016 5.0 for less than $70.
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Correct they Exceed those standards by Far.
But If you need the starburst on your bottle, we do have those offerings too.
XL 5/30 10.5 NOACK Volatility
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...179&zo=1667299
and XL 10/30 5.7 NOACK Volatility
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...182&zo=1667299
Here are the XL specs http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g1404.pdf
But If you need the starburst on your bottle, we do have those offerings too.
XL 5/30 10.5 NOACK Volatility
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...179&zo=1667299
and XL 10/30 5.7 NOACK Volatility
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-produc...182&zo=1667299
Here are the XL specs http://www.amsoil.com/lit/databulletins/g1404.pdf
If your vehicle is still under warranty, you NEED the API starburst on the bottle, but once again you have to pay an extremely high price for Scamsoil products due to the pyramid marketing scheme (MLM).
10/30 is the wrong viscosity for ALL F-150 engines.
Last edited by Takeda; Apr 20, 2017 at 04:13 PM.
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From: Durham, NC
I've got the UPR dual catch can system installed on my 2016 3.5 Ecoboost. And, I like it. I dump the dirty side catch can every couple thousand miles, and am happy to not have that gunk running into my intake. On this engine, it is personal preference.
On the one hand, Ford doesn't design the engine with a catch cans system because it can meet EPA requirements more cheaply and simply by routing the vapors to the intake. Also, the catch can system requires maintenance that most users do not want to perform.
And, on the other, on the F150 catch cans don't provide any "cheap insurance" or engine maintainability improvement.
I like that it is a cleaner alternative for the intake. That is personal preference. A well-designed system doesn't throw codes or interfere with engine operation. I'm used to re-routing the breathers on my bikes where I can incorporate the system in a manner that does provide performance benefit. And on the 3.5 Ecoboost, I like keeping that quart of condensed moisture and gunk out of the intake plumbing each month or two. On the F150 it's not a performance enhancer, so people who don't want to use one, shouldn't...
On the one hand, Ford doesn't design the engine with a catch cans system because it can meet EPA requirements more cheaply and simply by routing the vapors to the intake. Also, the catch can system requires maintenance that most users do not want to perform.
And, on the other, on the F150 catch cans don't provide any "cheap insurance" or engine maintainability improvement.
I like that it is a cleaner alternative for the intake. That is personal preference. A well-designed system doesn't throw codes or interfere with engine operation. I'm used to re-routing the breathers on my bikes where I can incorporate the system in a manner that does provide performance benefit. And on the 3.5 Ecoboost, I like keeping that quart of condensed moisture and gunk out of the intake plumbing each month or two. On the F150 it's not a performance enhancer, so people who don't want to use one, shouldn't...
Once again, that "condensed gunk" never enters your intake without a catch can.
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From: Guilford ct
I am a ford senior master tec and master ase certified tec and I think the catch can is a good devise to help keep the intake clean, I also run 5w-30 amsoil in all my vehicles and never had any engine trouble (this is all strickley my opinion only)
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Not in the form it dumps from the catch can. True. But I dont want the oil vapor and moisture sucked into the intake. The volume that is diverted by the catch system shows up as the gunk that dumps from the can. Personally, I like the cleaner intake. It doesnt matter to others.....
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I'm glad you added the qualifier at the end of your post! I don't think Ford would endorse a product (devise) that causes a vehicle to throw codes.
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Not in the form it dumps from the catch can. True. But I dont want the oil vapor and moisture sucked into the intake. The volume that is diverted by the catch system shows up as the gunk that dumps from the can. Personally, I like the cleaner intake. It doesnt matter to others.....
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There is more than one "PCV system" code. Can you give us the code number? I agree with the last 299 posts that a catch can isn't needed. I also agree that something involving the catch can system you installed is likely the cause of the code.
With that said, I'm not much for armchair lectures. If you can get us a code we can look up the service procedure for diagnosis so you can make sure that this gets fixed.
With that said, I'm not much for armchair lectures. If you can get us a code we can look up the service procedure for diagnosis so you can make sure that this gets fixed.