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Was watching some U-tube videos on ecoboost engines and one of the comments after the video was don’t purchase your motorcraft oil filters from Amazon as there have been knock-offs sold. Anyone else hear of this?
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There are definitely counterfeit Motorcraft parts floating around. That said, I also heard that Motorcraft recently changed their labeling - filters are white with a motorcraft sticker now instead of printed.
Amazon is where ebay was 10 years ago. Ironically, it's easier to get genuine parts on ebay now (you can buy direct from dealers). Luckily I bought a case of filters from Rockauto so I'm good for a few years.
Amazon is where ebay was 10 years ago. Ironically, it's easier to get genuine parts on ebay now (you can buy direct from dealers). Luckily I bought a case of filters from Rockauto so I'm good for a few years.
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It's possible that it is produced on the exact same assembly line as the "non-counterfeit" ones by the "3rd shift". This is a very common practice in China. They could be "official" counterfeits. And if not, they are probably using identical specs (albeit lower quality materials and no QC). Has anyone taken one apart and checked to see if it differed from the known OEM?
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Shouldn't be news to anyone that buying anything - whether online or not - you should be aware that only authorized dealers / resellers can carry product. Ford decides who distributes their products. Nothing stopping anyone from buying and reselling online though.
One way to verify what you're buying is to know WHO you are buying from. People say "I bought it from Ebay." Ebay doesn't sell anything. People sell on Ebay.
They say "I bought it from Amazon.". In Q3 of 2020, 54% of the items sold on Amazon were not sold by Amazon, they were sold by 3rd parties. If you want something sold by Amazon, you need to look and see if it's sold by them, vs. sold by a 3rd party and shipped by them, or sold by a 3rd party and shipped by a 3rd party.
Also, if you didn't know, inventory of 3rd party sellers, shipped by Amazon, is comingled. So there could be 5 companies selling a widget, with Amazon shipping all of them. They will comingle the inventory so the item you thought you were buying from company A was really sourced and stocked at Amazon by company B.
While Walmart store inventory is from Walmart, Walmart.com also has tens of thousands of people selling on their site.
Buyer beware always.
One way to verify what you're buying is to know WHO you are buying from. People say "I bought it from Ebay." Ebay doesn't sell anything. People sell on Ebay.
They say "I bought it from Amazon.". In Q3 of 2020, 54% of the items sold on Amazon were not sold by Amazon, they were sold by 3rd parties. If you want something sold by Amazon, you need to look and see if it's sold by them, vs. sold by a 3rd party and shipped by them, or sold by a 3rd party and shipped by a 3rd party.
Also, if you didn't know, inventory of 3rd party sellers, shipped by Amazon, is comingled. So there could be 5 companies selling a widget, with Amazon shipping all of them. They will comingle the inventory so the item you thought you were buying from company A was really sourced and stocked at Amazon by company B.
While Walmart store inventory is from Walmart, Walmart.com also has tens of thousands of people selling on their site.
Buyer beware always.
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I avoid Amazon for anything that is easily counterfeited because it's so common. And it will continue to happen so long as Amazon is not held accountable. Plenty of reputable resellers out there.
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Totally agree that Amazon is a major cause of this problem, but if they weren't around it would still be a big issue.
One thing that is obvious is that there are a huge number of suppliers in China selling products on Amazon under multiply "company" names. I had to buy a 24 volt transformer for a doorbell cam. Found a top rated one, bought it. Weeks later that listed showed "not available". If you look at other listings, wording is nearly identical including same misspellings and improper use of English. You can see this on many products including cell phone chargers. Many of them encourage warranty extensions if you register your purchase with them, then you start getting emails under that email address for all sorts of products. That's why I own a few domains, and can makeup, and block, any email address at will.
One thing that is obvious is that there are a huge number of suppliers in China selling products on Amazon under multiply "company" names. I had to buy a 24 volt transformer for a doorbell cam. Found a top rated one, bought it. Weeks later that listed showed "not available". If you look at other listings, wording is nearly identical including same misspellings and improper use of English. You can see this on many products including cell phone chargers. Many of them encourage warranty extensions if you register your purchase with them, then you start getting emails under that email address for all sorts of products. That's why I own a few domains, and can makeup, and block, any email address at will.
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Shouldn't be news to anyone that buying anything - whether online or not - you should be aware that only authorized dealers / resellers can carry product. Ford decides who distributes their products. Nothing stopping anyone from buying and reselling online though.
One way to verify what you're buying is to know WHO you are buying from. People say "I bought it from Ebay." Ebay doesn't sell anything. People sell on Ebay.
They say "I bought it from Amazon.". In Q3 of 2020, 54% of the items sold on Amazon were not sold by Amazon, they were sold by 3rd parties. If you want something sold by Amazon, you need to look and see if it's sold by them, vs. sold by a 3rd party and shipped by them, or sold by a 3rd party and shipped by a 3rd party.
Also, if you didn't know, inventory of 3rd party sellers, shipped by Amazon, is comingled. So there could be 5 companies selling a widget, with Amazon shipping all of them. They will comingle the inventory so the item you thought you were buying from company A was really sourced and stocked at Amazon by company B.
While Walmart store inventory is from Walmart, Walmart.com also has tens of thousands of people selling on their site.
Buyer beware always.
One way to verify what you're buying is to know WHO you are buying from. People say "I bought it from Ebay." Ebay doesn't sell anything. People sell on Ebay.
They say "I bought it from Amazon.". In Q3 of 2020, 54% of the items sold on Amazon were not sold by Amazon, they were sold by 3rd parties. If you want something sold by Amazon, you need to look and see if it's sold by them, vs. sold by a 3rd party and shipped by them, or sold by a 3rd party and shipped by a 3rd party.
Also, if you didn't know, inventory of 3rd party sellers, shipped by Amazon, is comingled. So there could be 5 companies selling a widget, with Amazon shipping all of them. They will comingle the inventory so the item you thought you were buying from company A was really sourced and stocked at Amazon by company B.
While Walmart store inventory is from Walmart, Walmart.com also has tens of thousands of people selling on their site.
Buyer beware always.
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FordTechMakuloco posted a video a while back about how to spot counterfeit Motorcraft products.
He recently posted a video (last week?) about engine rebuilds and went on a quick tangent....new oil filters from Ford appear to be counterfeit. Ford now slaps on a sticker to the oil filter instead of having them printed like they have traditionally been. I suppose that may be more difficult to spot a counterfeit.
I guess the only advice is, if a person really cares, they can purchase from a reputable local reseller like the auto parts store at the corner, or the Ford Parts department.
Fearing a counterfeit filter and gambling to save a few dollars over the Ford cost shouldn't come to a surprise if some catastrophic thing were to occur as a result of the lubrication system.
Install counterfeit spark plugs may produce a misfire.....what can a faulty oil filter cause. LOL
He recently posted a video (last week?) about engine rebuilds and went on a quick tangent....new oil filters from Ford appear to be counterfeit. Ford now slaps on a sticker to the oil filter instead of having them printed like they have traditionally been. I suppose that may be more difficult to spot a counterfeit.
I guess the only advice is, if a person really cares, they can purchase from a reputable local reseller like the auto parts store at the corner, or the Ford Parts department.
Fearing a counterfeit filter and gambling to save a few dollars over the Ford cost shouldn't come to a surprise if some catastrophic thing were to occur as a result of the lubrication system.
Install counterfeit spark plugs may produce a misfire.....what can a faulty oil filter cause. LOL
