2018 Owners Only--Any Issues So Far???
#181
Owned my 2018 Lariat 4x4 5.0 now for 3 months and 3k miles. Not really happy with this thing to be honest.
The bad.
Even with the TSB the shifting still not right. In sport mode its clunky and unrefined. In regular mode it lacks any low end grunt. Constant hiccups and sputtering as the engine and trans fight each other, feels like the mass air transfer function, transmission line pressures and shift scheduling is all out of whack. Hate the manual shift button on the shifter. Should be on the steering wheel like other Ford products. Not a lot of low end power for a 5.0. The shift schedule/programming just doesn't seem to be right to take advantage of the engines potential. The shift hangs even after you release the gas pedal. Stick your foot in it for a few gears and let off and the upshift takes forever. The blower fan for the air seems weak on max. Never seen 17 MPG much less anything in the 20s on or off the highway and I drive pretty conservative. The auto stop/start doesn't disable even when you go into the settings to shut it off. No ability to adjust the color of the ambient lighting sucks. No real gauges available displaying real time data also sucks. Halogens suck. Cigarette tailpipe looks like an after thought. No pull tab for rear drivers side fold down seat...have to spend $35 in the aftermarket to do what it should come with in an XL model. No rear fender liners suck. LED/HID head lighting isn't standard still. OEM LED headlights are $2k! Headlight bulb access blows. Stock fog lights suck, get the LED version. The headlight **** isn't very ergonomic and the **** isn't lit. ALL the buttons for air, overhead lighting are way too small!. The air panel should be switched with the radio panel since there are radio controls on the damn wheel. You have to reach around the shifter and anything you have stored in the compartment right in front of it to get to the climate control and that damn fan speed button is small. Power mirrors don't auto-fold close when shutting the engine off, have to press the button every single time. Key FOB too big. No integrated toolbox/stowage area like the Dodge. No in-floor interior storage like some other vehicle on the road. Crappy dealerships in my neck of the woods. Supply and demand mean they're getting top dollar for these trucks. Dodge was tempting being $10k less.
The good.
Tons of interior space. Nice black interior/leather. Feels like an F250. The exhaust and engine are very quiet. Heated seats work well. Power rear window and moonroof are nice. Folding mirrors and spot lights are a nice touch. Perimeter exterior lighting during remote start in the morning is great. Remote tailgate is cool. 4x4 status gauges are a nice touch. Door seals seem solid. Center console and glove box have a great amount of space. Trailer connections are well laid out and protected. Nice touch on the stamped "F-150" on the tailgate. Hood design is nice along with front windshield and roof line.
The bad.
Even with the TSB the shifting still not right. In sport mode its clunky and unrefined. In regular mode it lacks any low end grunt. Constant hiccups and sputtering as the engine and trans fight each other, feels like the mass air transfer function, transmission line pressures and shift scheduling is all out of whack. Hate the manual shift button on the shifter. Should be on the steering wheel like other Ford products. Not a lot of low end power for a 5.0. The shift schedule/programming just doesn't seem to be right to take advantage of the engines potential. The shift hangs even after you release the gas pedal. Stick your foot in it for a few gears and let off and the upshift takes forever. The blower fan for the air seems weak on max. Never seen 17 MPG much less anything in the 20s on or off the highway and I drive pretty conservative. The auto stop/start doesn't disable even when you go into the settings to shut it off. No ability to adjust the color of the ambient lighting sucks. No real gauges available displaying real time data also sucks. Halogens suck. Cigarette tailpipe looks like an after thought. No pull tab for rear drivers side fold down seat...have to spend $35 in the aftermarket to do what it should come with in an XL model. No rear fender liners suck. LED/HID head lighting isn't standard still. OEM LED headlights are $2k! Headlight bulb access blows. Stock fog lights suck, get the LED version. The headlight **** isn't very ergonomic and the **** isn't lit. ALL the buttons for air, overhead lighting are way too small!. The air panel should be switched with the radio panel since there are radio controls on the damn wheel. You have to reach around the shifter and anything you have stored in the compartment right in front of it to get to the climate control and that damn fan speed button is small. Power mirrors don't auto-fold close when shutting the engine off, have to press the button every single time. Key FOB too big. No integrated toolbox/stowage area like the Dodge. No in-floor interior storage like some other vehicle on the road. Crappy dealerships in my neck of the woods. Supply and demand mean they're getting top dollar for these trucks. Dodge was tempting being $10k less.
The good.
Tons of interior space. Nice black interior/leather. Feels like an F250. The exhaust and engine are very quiet. Heated seats work well. Power rear window and moonroof are nice. Folding mirrors and spot lights are a nice touch. Perimeter exterior lighting during remote start in the morning is great. Remote tailgate is cool. 4x4 status gauges are a nice touch. Door seals seem solid. Center console and glove box have a great amount of space. Trailer connections are well laid out and protected. Nice touch on the stamped "F-150" on the tailgate. Hood design is nice along with front windshield and roof line.
#182
Senior Member
Key fob too big?? That’s a 1st. If you have a keypad you should leave it in the truck. There’s a thread on it in here somewhere, though I’m not gonna search for it.
#183
Senior Member
Intelligent access issues. Going in the shop later this morning.
Hasn't worked since last Saturday.
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/intel...4/#post5658527
Hasn't worked since last Saturday.
https://www.f150forum.com/f118/intel...4/#post5658527
#184
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The 5.0 issues described are why I went with the 3.5 Eco. This motor acts like a diesel with all that low end torque.
Is this a company truck and you didn't have a choice??
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#186
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Sounds like you should have optioned the truck better to address many of those concerns.
Now..the shifting is the big thing to me as that is the thing you'll notice most while driving. Have you taken it to the dealer yet? I'd hope it would be smooth. Calm, relaxed shifts, until you dig in and let it rip. Are the downshifts smooth? I wonder if this will get addressed in TSB's or next model year. How does it drive in traffic? I'm shocked you're not getting more than 17mpg...though for a large truck and 5.o it seems about right. The 22mpg figure seems difficult to reach if you're not cruising down the highway at 65mph or less all day.
I hope you find some happiness in the rig. For $50k you think you'd have a more positive experience. Anything else stick out to you?
Now..the shifting is the big thing to me as that is the thing you'll notice most while driving. Have you taken it to the dealer yet? I'd hope it would be smooth. Calm, relaxed shifts, until you dig in and let it rip. Are the downshifts smooth? I wonder if this will get addressed in TSB's or next model year. How does it drive in traffic? I'm shocked you're not getting more than 17mpg...though for a large truck and 5.o it seems about right. The 22mpg figure seems difficult to reach if you're not cruising down the highway at 65mph or less all day.
I hope you find some happiness in the rig. For $50k you think you'd have a more positive experience. Anything else stick out to you?
The truck has been to the dealer twice now and still not smooth/right. Why is it the best selling truck has the worst operating transmission? My girlfriends 16 Explorer shifts smoother as did my 16 Mustang GT. Its not something you notice during a test drive either. You have to live with it for a few before you notice it but once you do you hate life that your new rig shifts like it wasn't properly tuned. Guess the aftermarket will have something in that department which I'm hoping will shift my feeling about MY truck (wont shift my feeling about Fords programming, that sucks!). Driving is ok but when you accelerate light to moderate for more than one gear in traffic its worse as the light throttle inputs you make keep it in the area where the hiccups are most noticeable. Another thing I hate is the skip shift. That contributes to the lack of low end torque feel you have in normal mode. Sure you can put it in sport but now you a sensitive gas pedal to go along with higher shift RPMs even when you're at light throttle and there is still hiccups in that mode as well, just not as noticeable since the engine is now allowed to work. Just doesn't feel right in this truck at all. The fuel economy may never get to 20+ around my neck of the woods. I suspect the 22mpg rating was achieved at below real world highway speeds. Even with 10 speeds, Eco trans mode (aka dog mode) I really doubt you'll see 22 going 65-70mph, much less 75-80 where I live. My 2002 Harley F150 got the same mileage on the highway that this one gets, neither of which is any good. My experience is just that, mine. I do like the rig but there are several short comings for sure, some design and some as optioned. I consider the decision and purchase a bad one on my part. I do expect a lot for a $50k vehicle. Keeping my eyes open for the right opportunity to get out of it. Just too much money for not enough enjoyment.
#187
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I was thinking the same thing, the 5.0 isn’t a powerhouse below 4500rpm , that’s a mustang engine basically it wasn’t tuned for torque , it was tuned for mid to upper rpm power , which it does great and sounds great doing. This is why the ecoboosts are so popular even the 2.7 has way more power than the 5.0 until the rpms get up there . My 3.5 eco boost pulls like my Duramax diesel I got rid of did . Test drove. 5.0 sounded great but the lights are on and no ones home below 4500 rpm, most of my driving is in the 1200-2200 rpm range .
#188
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I was thinking the same thing. Seems like almost all the negatives would have easily been identified with a simple test drive.
The 5.0 issues described are why I went with the 3.5 Eco. This motor acts like a diesel with all that low end torque.
Is this a company truck and you didn't have a choice??
The 5.0 issues described are why I went with the 3.5 Eco. This motor acts like a diesel with all that low end torque.
Is this a company truck and you didn't have a choice??
#189
2018 Lariat 4x4 SC SE 5.0 with 3.55's with 3400 miles. Built in MI late Nov and I pkcked up Dec 7.
So far my only issues are door alignments. Just like my 2015 had...stop at dealer and they adjusted. I actually had snow sneaking onto my floor mats due to door not being aligned. All fixed. My 2015 had no rattles in cab. My 2018 has two that drive me crazy. Seem to be cold weather related though as go away after cab is good and warm. I think my 2018 5.0 with 3.55 has more torque and feels quicker than my 2015 with 3.31. To me, feels really good. Now, there have been a few times it just doesn't seem to shift 100% on time....like almost whining and you are waiting for the shift. Doesnt happen all the time but notice on occassion. Lastly...I hate auto start/stop and hope it can be turned off permanently day. Mine does not recognize temp. We have had a stupid cold winter in WI and my engine shuts off at -10 F, or 0, or 5 degrees....doesn't matter the temp.
So far I do like the truck. If given a do over, I would have waited til mid year to order so bugs could be worked out more.
So far my only issues are door alignments. Just like my 2015 had...stop at dealer and they adjusted. I actually had snow sneaking onto my floor mats due to door not being aligned. All fixed. My 2015 had no rattles in cab. My 2018 has two that drive me crazy. Seem to be cold weather related though as go away after cab is good and warm. I think my 2018 5.0 with 3.55 has more torque and feels quicker than my 2015 with 3.31. To me, feels really good. Now, there have been a few times it just doesn't seem to shift 100% on time....like almost whining and you are waiting for the shift. Doesnt happen all the time but notice on occassion. Lastly...I hate auto start/stop and hope it can be turned off permanently day. Mine does not recognize temp. We have had a stupid cold winter in WI and my engine shuts off at -10 F, or 0, or 5 degrees....doesn't matter the temp.
So far I do like the truck. If given a do over, I would have waited til mid year to order so bugs could be worked out more.
#190
Ford quality is really going downhill quick. I'm glad I held off on buying a 2018. There are just too many issues with these new trucks to even take a chance.
Too many people here say " this is only a small % of trucks having problems" sure it is. Just read this post. I hate to say it but Ford quality sucks.
Too many people here say " this is only a small % of trucks having problems" sure it is. Just read this post. I hate to say it but Ford quality sucks.