Topic Sponsor
2015 - 2020 Ford F150 General discussion on the 13th generation Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2018 F150 5.0L - Excessive Oil Consumption ***TSB-2058***

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-25-2019, 11:20 PM
  #771  
Hirschjäger
 
Aqualung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 260
Received 148 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

Went in yesterday to get my oil checked for the third time since the oil change to start the test. This oil had about 1200mi on it...

I've been checking the oil on my own and have seen the oil level go down in the hash marks. It's about halfway down now. My process is that I drive the truck to work and park in the same spot (a very level spot). I let it sit all day, then check the oil before I start out for home.

Both this last time at the dealer and when Mrs. Aqualung took it 2 weeks ago, they waited the prescribed 15 minutes after shutdown and the oil level was well up in the hash marks. I was skeptical when she came home and told me that they told her all was well. However, I saw it myself yesterday.

When I told the tech the difference in what I was seeing, he told me that the shop manual states that oil should be checked when warm, but after 15 min after shutdown. He said he frankly didn't know the difference and why the results are different, but he knows that there will be different results when checked dead cold like I am doing.

The tech also told me that he's heard of some oil consumption problems being solved with the PCV valve replacement.

This particular dealership hasn't had any other F150s in for this issue ànd haven't had to replace any engines. Mustangs, yes, but no F150s.

So, at this point, I don't know what's going to shake out with it...

Aqualung
Old 05-25-2019, 11:41 PM
  #772  
FX4
 
OD52's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: PNW
Posts: 258
Received 14 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Aqualung
Went in yesterday to get my oil checked for the third time since the oil change to start the test. This oil had about 1200mi on it...

I've been checking the oil on my own and have seen the oil level go down in the hash marks. It's about halfway down now. My process is that I drive the truck to work and park in the same spot (a very level spot). I let it sit all day, then check the oil before I start out for home.

Both this last time at the dealer and when Mrs. Aqualung took it 2 weeks ago, they waited the prescribed 15 minutes after shutdown and the oil level was well up in the hash marks. I was skeptical when she came home and told me that they told her all was well. However, I saw it myself yesterday.

When I told the tech the difference in what I was seeing, he told me that the shop manual states that oil should be checked when warm, but after 15 min after shutdown. He said he frankly didn't know the difference and why the results are different, but he knows that there will be different results when checked dead cold like I am doing.

The tech also told me that he's heard of some oil consumption problems being solved with the PCV valve replacement.

This particular dealership hasn't had any other F150s in for this issue ànd haven't had to replace any engines. Mustangs, yes, but no F150s.

So, at this point, I don't know what's going to shake out with it...

Aqualung
If you want to verify what the dealer tech is saying you could check the oil hot 15 minutes after shutdown upon arriving at work (would require getting to work at least 15 minutes early) and then again cold when you get off work before heading home to see if it measures different.

Last edited by OD52; 05-25-2019 at 11:43 PM. Reason: Quick fix
Old 05-25-2019, 11:53 PM
  #773  
Hirschjäger
 
Aqualung's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 260
Received 148 Likes on 74 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by OD52
If you want to verify what the dealer tech is saying you could check the oil hot 15 minutes after shutdown upon arriving at work (would require getting to work at least 15 minutes early) and then again cold when you get off work before heading home to see if it measures different.
Yep, that's my plan.

Thanks, though.

Aqualung
Old 05-26-2019, 09:54 AM
  #774  
Senior Member
 
MotoMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Newnan, GA
Posts: 533
Received 137 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Seems pretty strange the level would go down from 15 mins after shut down to several hrs later? The purpose of waiting the 15 mins is to let the oil drain into the pan, waiting longer does the engine somehow siphon oil back up just sitting?

Time was you could always depend on getting a good read with engine stone cold. I've noticed since switching to full synthetic, after 15 mins from shut down, the oil looks like it may still be dripping on the stick. If I wait an hour or 2, the level seems more apparent on the stick?

Last edited by MotoMike; 05-26-2019 at 11:13 AM.
Old 05-26-2019, 10:50 AM
  #775  
Senior Member
 
The Bogeyman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Posts: 234
Received 68 Likes on 41 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MotoMike
Seems pretty strange the level would go down from 15 mins after shut down to several hrs later? The purpose of waiting the 15 mins is to let the oil drain into the pan, waiting longer des the engine somehow siphon oil back up just sitting?
I am with you on that. It doesn't make any sense.

When my dealer did the consumption test, they waited 15 minutes and checked. I know when I checked myself the oil level stayed the same from 15 minutes after shutoff through the next morning.
Old 05-26-2019, 11:22 AM
  #776  
Member
 
Truck22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 407
Received 157 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Started my consumption test Monday. While they notched the dipstick, it appears that they overfilled it. My best guess is it currently sits above the top hole on the stick. Prior to my oil change at 7500 miles, it was about 1/8" from the bottom of the dip stick.
I noticed they overfilled mine as well during the O.C Test
Old 05-26-2019, 12:46 PM
  #777  
Senior Member
 
Chuck Van's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 952
Received 80 Likes on 63 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Truck22
I noticed they overfilled mine as well during the O.C Test
I think it’s just that when the oil is colder it is less volume so it may be slightly lower on the stick than when it’s hot
Old 05-26-2019, 02:12 PM
  #778  
Member
 
VAFordman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 34
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Nicklaus
You catched my attention on this. Keep us posted if this holds or not.
Noticed the deceleration rattle is back and I hear it just as I did before when the engine is still cold. Would really like to know where this is coming from.
Old 05-26-2019, 02:38 PM
  #779  
Junior Member
 
n2stuff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 17
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I started the OC test last week. I took it in for the first oil change and it was changed for free because of the test. The dip stick has the new marks and was told to check it every 200miles myself. The truck had 6700 miles on it when I took it in. I told them I had put in 4 quarts of oil in to just keep it on the stick. Like others have said if it uses a full quart in 3000 miles they will replace the engine.
Old 05-26-2019, 04:13 PM
  #780  
Senior Member
 
Nicklaus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Quebec, Canada
Posts: 887
Received 334 Likes on 222 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by VAFordman
Noticed the deceleration rattle is back and I hear it just as I did before when the engine is still cold. Would really like to know where this is coming from.
Sadly expected. I’m now quite convinced the noise is coming from VCT solenoid.


Quick Reply: 2018 F150 5.0L - Excessive Oil Consumption ***TSB-2058***



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:54 PM.