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Old 03-04-2014, 10:00 AM
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Well, some states charge you based on the purchase price of the car. That would make my annual sticker cost very high. That's what I meant by not complaining. I would love to not pay taxes/fees etc and keep all my money but I don't think that would go over so well.
Old 03-04-2014, 01:58 PM
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:34 PM
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Having lived in states with inspections, and those without, it's very clear that in states lacking safety inspections people drive vehicles that LOOK more unsafe. In Michigan you see cars and trucks that should not be on the road, but their owners drive them anyway. I'm for safety inspections, annually, $25 or less. Emissions inspections are usually done only in areas where they have high emissions in most, but not all, states.

As far as driving unlicensed vehicles, many who do that also don't carry insurance. Should they be in an accident, hopefully they end up in jail.
Old 03-04-2014, 04:30 PM
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My take on inspections......

It has been my observation that every time I've looked at or purchased a vehicle from a state that does not have state inspections, the front end (steering and suspension) is generally shot.

I think things like this would get caught in states that do safety inspections.

I do think however, that inspections should be done every other year, instead of every year as it is done in NC to allow the owner time for repairs (provided the owner is responsible and actually takes care of their vehicle).

Regarding emissions, if a vehicle is running so rich (poorly) that it burns the eyes out of the person driving behind it, it shouldn't pass inspection either.

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Old 03-04-2014, 04:55 PM
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My '87 doesn't need to get inspected anymore here in WA for some reason. I think 25 years was the cutoff. Not sure why they do that but I'll take it. I was always way under the limits for emissions, made me wonder how bad a car really had to be to fail. I had lots of friends that would register their car in the next county over to avoid having to get tested. $15 every two years wasn't enough for me to go through that.

I can also get collector plates for it if I want. Never pay tabs again. I have a collector plate on one of my motorcycles. There is no limit on miles you can drive or when/where you can go. They might have a claim if there is a load in the bed of the truck that it's not a show vehicle. Any vehicle over 25 years old will work, just not travel trailers. I've been looking for an '87-'89 bronco just for fun, and so I don't have to pay for tabs on it. I have 5 more years till my car qualifies.

I know some folks from my home state of Kentucky that joke about retaining their citizenship when they moved here. The WA fees for a drivers license are steep in my opinion. I also need to get a CDL and it's cheaper for me to fly back to Kentucky, transfer my license, take the CDL test, fly back to WA, and transfer it back. There is a 160 hour training requirement here that most other states don't have. There are some rules that you have to follow about being in the state for a period of time but when I moved here I kept my license and vehicle registrations in Kentucky for as long as I could. I got hassled a few times at the border going into Canada but they really can't do anything about it.
Old 03-05-2014, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RocketScott
My '87 doesn't need to get inspected anymore here in WA for some reason. I think 25 years was the cutoff. Not sure why they do that but I'll take it. I was always way under the limits for emissions, made me wonder how bad a car really had to be to fail. I had lots of friends that would register their car in the next county over to avoid having to get tested. $15 every two years wasn't enough for me to go through that.

I can also get collector plates for it if I want. Never pay tabs again. I have a collector plate on one of my motorcycles. There is no limit on miles you can drive or when/where you can go. They might have a claim if there is a load in the bed of the truck that it's not a show vehicle. Any vehicle over 25 years old will work, just not travel trailers. I've been looking for an '87-'89 bronco just for fun, and so I don't have to pay for tabs on it. I have 5 more years till my car qualifies.

I know some folks from my home state of Kentucky that joke about retaining their citizenship when they moved here. The WA fees for a drivers license are steep in my opinion. I also need to get a CDL and it's cheaper for me to fly back to Kentucky, transfer my license, take the CDL test, fly back to WA, and transfer it back. There is a 160 hour training requirement here that most other states don't have. There are some rules that you have to follow about being in the state for a period of time but when I moved here I kept my license and vehicle registrations in Kentucky for as long as I could. I got hassled a few times at the border going into Canada but they really can't do anything about it.
Never had to do safety inspections in Washington. Only certain counties have emissions (the most heavily populated like king county, snohomish county, etc.) And collectors plates here have plenty of rules you're supposed to follow.

For vehicles:
To use Collector Vehicle plates, vehicles must be:

More than 30 years old.
Capable of operating on the highway.
Owned and operated as collector vehicles.
For purchasing and renewing Collector Vehicle license plates
Collector Vehicle plates:

May be assigned to currently registered passenger vehicles, motorcycles, or trucks.
Are good for the life of vehicle (don’t need to be renewed annually).
For using Collector Vehicle plates
Collector Vehicle license plates must be displayed on the rear of the vehicle. If you provide a set of restored plates, they may be displayed on the front and rear of the vehicle.
You don’t need to display month/year tabs on Collector Vehicle plates.
Vehicles with Collector Vehicle plates:
May be driven:
To and from auto shows, circuses, parades, displays, special excursions, and antique car club meetings.
For testing purposes.
For the pleasure of others without compensation.
May not be used for regular transportation in the manner of a fully licensed vehicle.

If you live in the following counties(in Washington), your vehicle may need to get an emissions test every 2 years:

Clark County
King County
Pierce County
Snohomish County
Spokane County

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Old 03-05-2014, 12:45 AM
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Louisiana inspections consist of windshield, horn, headlights, turn signals, parking lights, and brake lights. They're suppose to drive the vehicle, but I've never seen any inspector do that. They just need to call it a lighting inspection and be done with it.
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California has no safety inspection, only emissions which is rather intensive. The amount if things an inspector has to know, inspect or research on the car is surprising. Not all inspectors do the job properly which is why the state is changing procedures to make it harder for an inspector to slip by without doing his job properly. Speaking as a mechanic I whish we did have an actual safety inspection. 70% of the vehicle coming into the shop have tires or brakes beyond safe limits. Most of them you can tell at a quick glance. Some come in with breaks so bad I have had close calls just pulling around to the repair bay. The worst part is these people have no idea their car is unsafe. They drive at 80 mph with metal to metal in the front brakes and 25% on the rear drums with cords showing on the tires and think the car is supposed to handle that way. They want me to ad hotter coils and cold air intakes or charge the air conditioning but there is no way to stop the car. Images of these customers cars often flash through my mind when riding my motorcycle and someone is tailgating me at 85 mph in traffic. I would much rather have safety inspections than emissions.
Old 03-05-2014, 08:43 AM
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You can't legislate away stupidity. This is why things are so bad. "It's for the good of all." Doesn't mean you have the right to limit my right to travel. It's all about the money, always about the money. Here in Florida if my insurance lapses they suspend my license and I have to pay up to $500 to get it back, in Virginia if you pay an extra $500 you don't need insurance. What a f*cking scam any way they do it.
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I don't think I would mind safety inspections if they charged a price that it actually cost to perform the inspection, which shouldn't be much at all. I have driven friends vehicles before, more than one that I flat out couldn't believe was on the road. Both were brake issues. They were just flat out shot, you can hear it too. Tires don't concern me as much, but is still is an issue. If your showing wires, you really need to confided tires, because no tread is left. I've also been behind cars with no tail lights at all at night. It's hard to tell if there stopping or just can't drive sometimes. I don't think the inspection should be a million point inspection either, maybe just all lights, brakes, and tires. That shouldn't take more than 5-10 mins, and I shouldn't have to pay more than 5 dollars either.


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