Kickpanel component enclosures
I've never installed any, but I have heard them in other vehicles (not in a F150), and they can sound great. They are not simply aiming at your feet. They are angled up toward the listener.
Closer to your ear is not always the best placement for speakers. Generally speaking, frequencies above about 3k Hz begin to image better and create a better sound stage when they come from in front of the listener as opposed to the side. When they mix albums in pro studios, the speakers are in front of them... just below ear level... not on either side.
All that being said... I've also heard directly from people that have installed the Q-forms that they although they are vehicle specific, they are not a simple install. Last I checked, they did not come with any sort of mounting hardware (to mount to the vehicle). So you have to deal with that. Most people fiber-glass in some sort of L-brackets on the inside, and they screw it in place before installing the speakers.
I wanted to try some in a previous pickup that I had, but even the Qform models that were specific to that truck required moving the e-brake pedal over a few inches.
So the results might be really good... but be prepared to do some light fabrication and mods. If you try it... be sure to take a ton of pics and do a write up.
Closer to your ear is not always the best placement for speakers. Generally speaking, frequencies above about 3k Hz begin to image better and create a better sound stage when they come from in front of the listener as opposed to the side. When they mix albums in pro studios, the speakers are in front of them... just below ear level... not on either side.
All that being said... I've also heard directly from people that have installed the Q-forms that they although they are vehicle specific, they are not a simple install. Last I checked, they did not come with any sort of mounting hardware (to mount to the vehicle). So you have to deal with that. Most people fiber-glass in some sort of L-brackets on the inside, and they screw it in place before installing the speakers.
I wanted to try some in a previous pickup that I had, but even the Qform models that were specific to that truck required moving the e-brake pedal over a few inches.
So the results might be really good... but be prepared to do some light fabrication and mods. If you try it... be sure to take a ton of pics and do a write up.
No sweat off my ********.. I've been around enough forums to know the routine.. That's why I posted the goofy smiley..
I'm not here to bash on anyone's opinion or whatever. Just looking for actual experience..
I'm not here to bash on anyone's opinion or whatever. Just looking for actual experience..
i'm totally with you, copper gets on here after 8 post and starts talkin sh*T,
i've considered kick panels too but like mentioned before, i think with muddy boots, snowy boots, and just plain dirty shoes they wouldn't work too good for me, i just put kenwood 6 1/2" 3 ways in my doors, they have awesome high and mid sound but lack bass unless you turn the bass up and drop the treble and mid all the way down and crank the volume, then they rattle the heck out of my mirrors, now i'm lookin at a sub to fill the bass a little cleaner, i've been looking at subs for 3 years now and just havn't been able to pull the trigger yet
i've considered kick panels too but like mentioned before, i think with muddy boots, snowy boots, and just plain dirty shoes they wouldn't work too good for me, i just put kenwood 6 1/2" 3 ways in my doors, they have awesome high and mid sound but lack bass unless you turn the bass up and drop the treble and mid all the way down and crank the volume, then they rattle the heck out of my mirrors, now i'm lookin at a sub to fill the bass a little cleaner, i've been looking at subs for 3 years now and just havn't been able to pull the trigger yet
^^^ You might try dampening the heck out of your door. Isolating the face of the speaker cone from the rear waves can do wonders even if it's just a thin sound deadening layer (basically making the door a sealed enclosure). This will improve your midbass/bass you can get out of your speakers. Adding an amp may help them in terms of achieving output without distortion.
You gave me some tone so I gave some back. It was all good then that other jackass has to get all mouthy.
Have you considered the headliners with the speaker mounts? I would think that would be a better choice. My stereo sounds great with the factory door speakers. I pull out all the bass and crank the treble, then amp the **** out of my 10s which have a bass crossover in the amp.
Have you considered the headliners with the speaker mounts? I would think that would be a better choice. My stereo sounds great with the factory door speakers. I pull out all the bass and crank the treble, then amp the **** out of my 10s which have a bass crossover in the amp.
As far as imaging and staging go, general rule of thumb is to "try" to have the speakers mounted equidistant from your head and equidistant from eachother That's why kicks are such a good option but I've done very little fiberglass work and don't really want to shell out the $$ for Q-forms..maybe I'll just do the doors and forget it.. How's the depth from the speaker mounting area to the back of the door panel? I'd have to do a spacer ring to fit the comps in the factory hole, could I use 3/4" MDF for a spacer?
I plan to take my door panels off tomorrow (just got the truck and every thing is FILTHY... all needs a deep cleaning). I'll measure the depth and let you know.
I'm planning Rockford T1652s in the factory door speaker location, and planning two additional 6.5s in the lower portion of each door... for midbass kick. Depending on the speakers I choose, I may have to build it out, slightly. Just from looking at it from the outside though... I don't think I will.
Then replace the factory 6x8s with Rockford T1682s...
And probably the four Tang Band 6 1/2 woofers I mentioned in the other thread.
I'm planning Rockford T1652s in the factory door speaker location, and planning two additional 6.5s in the lower portion of each door... for midbass kick. Depending on the speakers I choose, I may have to build it out, slightly. Just from looking at it from the outside though... I don't think I will.
Then replace the factory 6x8s with Rockford T1682s...
And probably the four Tang Band 6 1/2 woofers I mentioned in the other thread.


