Going MSD
06-15-2010, 08:54 PM
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What is the rule of thumb with changing these plug wires and component we've been speaking about? I suspect the ones I currently have are original- (I've never changed any of that stuff) and it's currently at mileage listed in signature.
06-15-2010, 09:37 PM
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I make 700+ mile non-stops @ 80mph average (& w/ a 60K volt coil). You slam em hard at the track! So neither of us are treatin em w/ kid gloves!
What also needs to be taken into consideration is the constant thermal flux, plug wires experience w/ day to day driving! That's where I think the MSD's will prevail.
Sure the Taylors are "close", but we're not throwin hand grenades!
I have a 3 year head start. Better hurry up!
06-15-2010, 09:47 PM
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If you finish the ignition system upgrade which a brass cap & rotor is all your lacking, you can then increase your plug gap & further advance you base timing. Better performance & if you can keep your foot out of it, better MPG's! It will pay for the cap & rotor in saved gas.
Just a 2 mpg increase is 38 extra miles/tank. About $6. and change savings/ tank. It adds up!
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06-15-2010, 11:16 PM
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The only way to find out is install em & start puttin the miles on em! You can be the "Official Forum Taylor Thunderbutt (Opps! Type-o) Plug Wire Tester" & I'll continue my MSD SuperC plug wire endurance test.
I make 700+ mile non-stops @ 80mph average (& w/ a 60K volt coil). You slam em hard at the track! So neither of us are treatin em w/ kid gloves!
What also needs to be taken into consideration is the constant thermal flux, plug wires experience w/ day to day driving! That's where I think the MSD's will prevail.
Sure the Taylors are "close", but we're not throwin hand grenades!
I have a 3 year head start. Better hurry up!
I make 700+ mile non-stops @ 80mph average (& w/ a 60K volt coil). You slam em hard at the track! So neither of us are treatin em w/ kid gloves!
What also needs to be taken into consideration is the constant thermal flux, plug wires experience w/ day to day driving! That's where I think the MSD's will prevail.
Sure the Taylors are "close", but we're not throwin hand grenades!
I have a 3 year head start. Better hurry up!
So far so good. I will keep you posted though, as time progresses....."Taylors are 'close'" ha ha... Wouldn't it just kill you if you found out that your precious MSD wires were made by Taylor? (I acutally thought I read that somewhere but, I could be wrong) Like so many things these days, there typically is only a few "REAL" manufacturers and most other companies buy their product and re-badge it and..... as close as the Thundervolt's and Superconductors are, I wouldn't be surprised.
... and NO, there is no way MSD is making the wire and Taylor is buying it from them, so don't say it!
06-16-2010, 12:05 AM
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Oh, their "in there"! Like I said, I installed them a few weeks ago and have made 8 - 1/4 mile passes on them with a 51k coil and plugs sidegapped to .060 So far so good. I will keep you posted though, as time progresses.....
"Taylors are 'close'" ha ha... Wouldn't it just kill you if you found out that your precious MSD wires were made by Taylor? (I acutally thought I read that somewhere but, I could be wrong) Like so many things these days, there typically is only a few "REAL" manufacturers and most other companies buy their product and re-badge it and..... as close as the Thundervolt's and Superconductors are, I wouldn't be surprised.
... and NO, there is no way MSD is making the wire and Taylor is buying it from them, so don't say it!
So far so good. I will keep you posted though, as time progresses....."Taylors are 'close'" ha ha... Wouldn't it just kill you if you found out that your precious MSD wires were made by Taylor? (I acutally thought I read that somewhere but, I could be wrong) Like so many things these days, there typically is only a few "REAL" manufacturers and most other companies buy their product and re-badge it and..... as close as the Thundervolt's and Superconductors are, I wouldn't be surprised.
... and NO, there is no way MSD is making the wire and Taylor is buying it from them, so don't say it!
.060 Side Gap. Cool! Now that's a spark kernel that ain't pissin w/ the puppy's! How do they compare to those E3's now?
I've got around 8K on my side gaps. Wonder what their going to be good for? In tempted to pull a couple & see what they look like. Even if they were only good for 12k, their only what? $12./ change?
These are my first S/G set, and copper cores to boot. I was running double plat finewires before that. So I don't have a clue how many miles to expect. I'll probably toss em at 10K, just for something to do anyway.
A sidebar, I've ordered trucks from the factory just the way I wanted em, newer, nicer, all that peripheral stuff. But I wouldn't trade this 87' for any of em. I enjoy every time I drive it, & it's really nothing that special. But, what it does do, it does very well, and every time I turn the key! I have a girlfriend that's almost as dependable. Thank God they get along well. I'd hate to have to choose one over the other! Anyway, just thinkin outloud.
06-16-2010, 08:00 AM
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Well I can think it!
.060 Side Gap. Cool! Now that's a spark kernel that ain't pissin w/ the puppy's! How do they compare to those E3's now?
I've got around 8K on my side gaps. Wonder what their going to be good for? In tempted to pull a couple & see what they look like. Even if they were only good for 12k, their only what? $12./ change?
These are my first S/G set, and copper cores to boot. I was running double plat finewires before that. So I don't have a clue how many miles to expect. I'll probably toss em at 10K, just for something to do anyway.
A sidebar, I've ordered trucks from the factory just the way I wanted em, newer, nicer, all that peripheral stuff. But I wouldn't trade this 87' for any of em. I enjoy every time I drive it, & it's really nothing that special. But, what it does do, it does very well, and every time I turn the key! I have a girlfriend that's almost as dependable. Thank God they get along well. I'd hate to have to choose one over the other! Anyway, just thinkin outloud.
.060 Side Gap. Cool! Now that's a spark kernel that ain't pissin w/ the puppy's! How do they compare to those E3's now?
I've got around 8K on my side gaps. Wonder what their going to be good for? In tempted to pull a couple & see what they look like. Even if they were only good for 12k, their only what? $12./ change?
These are my first S/G set, and copper cores to boot. I was running double plat finewires before that. So I don't have a clue how many miles to expect. I'll probably toss em at 10K, just for something to do anyway.
A sidebar, I've ordered trucks from the factory just the way I wanted em, newer, nicer, all that peripheral stuff. But I wouldn't trade this 87' for any of em. I enjoy every time I drive it, & it's really nothing that special. But, what it does do, it does very well, and every time I turn the key! I have a girlfriend that's almost as dependable. Thank God they get along well. I'd hate to have to choose one over the other! Anyway, just thinkin outloud.
I suspect we can easily get 20k miles on em' no sweat.... (I've got about 1k miles on mine so far, and all is well)
Funny, I feel the same way about my truck, people (including the ole' lady) are always telling me to buy a new truck, to which I politely reply
"NO WAY! I would only do that if I was an idiot!"
Why buy a new truck (...and I work at a Ford Dealer!) when I don't have a payment now, my insurance is $25 a month and it does everything I need it to very well?????
LONG LIVE THE 8TH GENERATION F-150'S!!
06-17-2010, 09:20 PM
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ive already got my msd 5527 street fire coil, msd cap&rotor kit , msd streetfire plug wires and autolite 25 plugs ,, going to tune up my truck this weekend....i cant forget the first time i started messing with msd it was with a 4 tenths mile short track race car and we had a msd 6a box on it we were messing around tuning engine and flipped ingintion button on and damn engine cranked up right then ,,,, remeber in nascar rules you have to have a ingintion on and off and push button start we never hit push button it cranked more then once i guess it caught the right gas and fuel mixture at pistons and sparked .. and yes it will light you up dont be sweaty and mess with msd ... i got up off floor on that lesson