Clutch issues
#1
Clutch issues
I have a 93 f150 6cyl manual (m5od trans). Truck drives fine on the street, but pulling or off road clutch doesn't hold. I live on the beaches of North Carolina and the really soft sand will pretty much render my truck stuck without spinning tires. I am thinking it's getting close to time to change the clutch. A new clutch may help my situation but I was wondering if anyone has installed a clutch with better clamping force. If I'm gonna replace the clutch I'd rather go over board then go stock and be upset that it still slips under heavy load.
#2
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I have a 93 f150 6cyl manual (m5od trans). Truck drives fine on the street, but pulling or off road clutch doesn't hold. I live on the beaches of North Carolina and the really soft sand will pretty much render my truck stuck without spinning tires. I am thinking it's getting close to time to change the clutch. A new clutch may help my situation but I was wondering if anyone has installed a clutch with better clamping force. If I'm gonna replace the clutch I'd rather go over board then go stock and be upset that it still slips under heavy load.
Make sure you have the flywheel surfaced also and change the slave since it's internal.
#3
I have a 93 f150 6cyl manual (m5od trans). Truck drives fine on the street, but pulling or off road clutch doesn't hold. I live on the beaches of North Carolina and the really soft sand will pretty much render my truck stuck without spinning tires. I am thinking it's getting close to time to change the clutch. A new clutch may help my situation but I was wondering if anyone has installed a clutch with better clamping force. If I'm gonna replace the clutch I'd rather go over board then go stock and be upset that it still slips under heavy load.
#4
So I kept having issues, my slave started leaking. so I ended up replacing the clutch and slave and all. But now my clutch stays disengaged. Truck will sit still in gear, will not move at all. I can shift through all gears engine running.
What I ended up doing was getting an 11 inch clutch this go around. New slave cylinder, new flywheel (it's my daily so I don't really have time to wait for a machine shop) bled the clutch. I'm guessing one part doesn't match with the others. Guessing the slave cylinder is keeping the clutch disengaged all the time. Just seeing what y'all though. Or if y'all have any ideas.
What I ended up doing was getting an 11 inch clutch this go around. New slave cylinder, new flywheel (it's my daily so I don't really have time to wait for a machine shop) bled the clutch. I'm guessing one part doesn't match with the others. Guessing the slave cylinder is keeping the clutch disengaged all the time. Just seeing what y'all though. Or if y'all have any ideas.
#5
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Are you sure the clutch is disengaged/disengaging? Do you have any pedal when you're pushing it down?
Sounds like a broke input shaft from what you're describing.
Sounds like a broke input shaft from what you're describing.
Last edited by nrivera04; 08-07-2016 at 02:22 PM.
#7
Okay so I have bled and re bled. Still get grinding goin. Into gears if it goes in at all. I have conventional bled it (two people) I have reverse bled it (pushing fluid up to master cylinder.) have pulled master cylinder out and pointed push rod down (like your supposed to on the Rangers) it got a little better but nothing drastic. Only think I can think is its sucking air somewhere, or there is a depth difference between 10 and 11 inch causing it to not release fully. Every time and method of bleeding I've done has not shown any air bubbles.
I'm at a loss, other than replacing the master cylinder I have no other options. Unless the slave cylinder is sucking air or not extending all the way. If I go back on I'm gonna stick the 10 inch back in it that way I know it's right.
I'm at a loss, other than replacing the master cylinder I have no other options. Unless the slave cylinder is sucking air or not extending all the way. If I go back on I'm gonna stick the 10 inch back in it that way I know it's right.
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#8
Okay so I have bled and re bled. Still get grinding goin. Into gears if it goes in at all. I have conventional bled it (two people) I have reverse bled it (pushing fluid up to master cylinder.) have pulled master cylinder out and pointed push rod down (like your supposed to on the Rangers) it got a little better but nothing drastic. Only think I can think is its sucking air somewhere, or there is a depth difference between 10 and 11 inch causing it to not release fully. Every time and method of bleeding I've done has not shown any air bubbles.
I'm at a loss, other than replacing the master cylinder I have no other options. Unless the slave cylinder is sucking air or not extending all the way. If I go back on I'm gonna stick the 10 inch back in it that way I know it's right.
I'm at a loss, other than replacing the master cylinder I have no other options. Unless the slave cylinder is sucking air or not extending all the way. If I go back on I'm gonna stick the 10 inch back in it that way I know it's right.
Last edited by 96F150-4.9; 08-07-2016 at 09:38 PM.
#9
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I would have to look cause I don't remember off the top of my head but I believe the 10 and 11 are interchangeable. The only difference, I think, is some flywheels aren't drilled for the 11" pressure plate.
I've always put a new CMC in when I changed slaves, it's possible yours is allowing some fluid bypass.
I've always put a new CMC in when I changed slaves, it's possible yours is allowing some fluid bypass.
#10
Well for giggles I replaced the master cylinder. Same thing. Grinding to reverse, and cannot shift into any forward gears. Don't know what to do at this point other than installing all new parts again.