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don't get me wrong, if i can get it running right with the fuel injection i will leave it, then all i have to do is paint it. i'm just looking at my options. not knowing this system i'm still in trouble shooting mode.
...we can do what ever we want to here in alabama.
Yeah, anyone can do anything he wants anywhere. But some of those things are illegal (even if you get away with it for a little while), like deleting or disabling any factory-installed emissions controls (the entire fuel management system, for example) and then driving on any public road anywhere on this continent. Do people do it? Of course they do. Is it something you want to teach your grandson to do?
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
...i can make the truck perform a lot better with the carb then the injection will ever do.
You're kidding yourself. That's like claiming you can do math better with an adding machine than with a computer. Even an early computer.
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
i have also been told by a big time ford man that this is the worst fuel injection system ford ever put on a truck.
Then he doesn't seem to know much about it. It's simple, robust, & reliable.
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
he says you can't hop it up...
Yeah, you can't make ice cream with it, either. But that's not the point, is it? It wasn't designed to be hacked by shade-tree engineers - it was designed to run, and with the recommended maintenance & occasional repairs, it DOES. I have 5 of these trucks, and the only one that doesn't run perfectly is the one that I bent a valve in (which isn't as easy as it might sound! ). The one in my avatar has a million actual miles without a rebuild. How many carb engines have you ever encountered that will go 1/3 that far without being rebuilt? EFIs often do half a million or more.
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
the truck will never be sold...
If you put a carb on it, you're right!
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
...teach my grandson about carbs if i do that. the injection would be easier for him...
That's what I'd be focused on - what's best FOR HIM. Yeah, you could teach him about an antiquated fuel-management system that he'll never need to know about & can't earn a living with in a vehicle he can't register in most places (and they're getting fewer every day); or you could show him the proper way to maintain what will likely be one of the biggest investments of time & money in his life, which WOULD be a good fallback occupation (or hobby) for him, since it's an industry that can never be outsourced to a Pakistani call center.
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
...i believe i know how to test the pulse to the injectors...
An inexpensive 12V LED test light, or a specific "noid light" (which is also inexpensive).
It's just like testing the pulse to an ignition coil (whether pulsed by solid-state ignition, or by points).
Originally Posted by 26Troadster
...the floor board gets wet but haven't figured out from where yet...
Most likely the penetration in the firewall where the heater core nipples are connected to the heater hoses. Rain runs down under the wiper valance, hits the nipples, and gets in through cracks in the dried-out sealant.
sorry you feel that way. i know with a two plain aluminum intake, a holley carb and a set of headers and the fuel injection truck will not run with it. i've seen it done. now if it had a mustang injection setup then i would agree. last night we talked and we may be pulling the wimpy 302 which is really a 4.9 not a 5.0 and dropping a 351w with a holley street dominator intake and a holley carb 600cfm to start with a c4 trans. then this spring i can teach him how to play at the strip.
ok late last night i found a broke white plastic vacuum line. it goes under what i'm gonna call relays that set next to the coil. the pic i'm gonna use is someone else's but shows what i'm talking about. i know the leak has to be fixed but not sure what this does. the line i found broken goes under the front relay. what do these lines do? i wish i could put a arrow on it. it would be the first one to take a right turn as you look at the pic. not the two that double back.
Last edited by 26Troadster; Feb 4, 2020 at 12:06 PM.