mjlebsa

I have a question that I hope I can get some clarification on because I’m a bit confused...I think. I’m in the market to buy a new truck. I’m looking at a 2018 or 2017 F150 (3.5 Eco boost w/ short bed) or F350 (diesel w/ short bed).

I’ll be towing a 2017 Roo24WS (Ext length 25 ft/dry weight 4841 lbs/cargo 1459 lbs/tongue 500 lbs.). I know the F350 will have NO issue whatsoever with that trailer, so no confusion there.

So, my question is w/ the F150. I went and looked at some (2017 Platinum & King Ranch short beds on both & w/ 3.5 eb) & according to the door sticker, the one that reads “The combined weight of cargo and occupants should never exceed,” states 1530 lbs for the King Ranch and 1515 for the Platinum. It’s my under standing I need to go by the door sticker. So, me, my wife, and kids, plus cargo, plus bed cover, plus trailer tongue weight shouldn’t exceed those values. I’m I correct in my thoughts? If that’s the case, then it seems the Roo I’m looking at would be maxing the truck out with regard to the sticker.

For what it's worth, I'll be towing in Colorado and Idaho mainly.

Any clarification would be extremely appreciated.

Thanks!

Meathead

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The 3.5 will be more than enough.

acdii

Whats the GVWR of the trailer? Dry weight is meaningless. If it is under 6000 pounds GVWR you might squeak by with the F150, but just barely as long as you travel light in the truck. I have a Lariat 502a with 1583 pounds of payload pulling a 6400 or so trailer with 820 pounds tongue weight and I am maxed out with 3800 pounds on the rear axle. I am 20 pounds under GVWR as well. This is with just me in the truck, gear I normally take and no passengers.

BarmanBean

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The Roo he's looking at has a tent pushout on the front. He won't have a crazy high tongue weight (maybe too light? I dunno--hitch weight is listed at 673 and might not get much higher no matter how you load it). You'll still be a bit close if you plan to load a bunch of stuff in the truck, or if you and the family are extra heavy.

But call it 750+100 for the tongue weight and WDH. So 850. Plus bed cover (80), you and wife (lets say you're heavy at 200 each), 2 kids (100 each) and you are at 850+80+400+200 = 1525.

So there ya go, you can't load anything else in the truck unless you adjust those "people weights" listed above. Where does the family weight in?

I lean toward the side of "payload police" when crunching numbers, but in all reality you'll likely be more than ok towing a 25' box trailer with the payloads you are listing. If you choose to go with a Lariat 502a you can probably get a payload in the 1600s if you avoid a sun roof. You will have more than enough power with either choice.

mjlebsa

Sounds like I'll be really pushing it. You're numbers aren't too far off other than wife is only 130 lbs. I won't have much wiggle room if I were to decide to upgrade the trailer in the future.

Nighthawk87

Don’t get such as fancy truck!

5.0GN tow

Either go less options on the truck to increase payload, or go to HDPP which also reduces options. The 350 will be overkill, but if you want a bigger trailer in the future it may be a good choice. That is what I did, we have a trailer that was towable with my 150, but knew we are looking to go bigger this year or next, so I bought a 350 DRW diesel CC. The trailer we want is a 21000lb GVWR trailer, so we bought enough truck to get it done. Even then we went with less options, to maintain a 6k payload so, even on bigger trucks its a concern.

acdii

I wish, its part of the 502a package, even though they list it as a separate billed item. Without one of those, or the power running boards it could get up near 1700. Mine sits at 1583, remove the roof and its 1647, not sure what the PRB weigh though, but I think it would be a wash if you have standard RB on.

It's doable for what he wants, but it is right on the edge for that type of truck. Cargo being the unknown factor.

BarmanBean

iTrader: (1)

Maybe it's different for different years. My 2015 502a truck has no sunroof Payload is 1692.

acdii

Well, Damn,,,,,,,,1 Lucky dude! I tried to do the build and price and it would not do one without the roof. The only good thing about the roof, is less paint to clean.