Is tongue weight and hitch weight the same?
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If you're pushing ANY component THAT close to its limits, you're asking for trouble. And that includes (ESPECIALLY) the loose nut behind the wheel. If you've never towed a trailer as heavy as this one, you DON'T want to learn with a truck that can barely handle it. Learn with a truck that can EASILY compensate for the mistakes you'll make. After you've put a few hundred thousand miles behind you & it, you can try your luck with a borderline (1/2-ton) truck.
Reese 45018 Titan Receiver Extension 41" length
Reese 80232 Hidden Hitch Angle-Cut Class III Ball Mount - 16" x .75" x 2", 6000 lbs.
#22
Each one of those components have a weight carrying and/or weight distribution rating based on the j684 standard( this a requirement). Which ever is rated lower, the extension or the receiver hitch becomes the limiting component. All components that makeup the “Hitch” are rated for the Max GVWR of the trailer to be drawn and the Max vertical load on the ball. This includes the receiver, ball mounts including WDH mounts. How does the receiver manufacturer produce a weight carrying and WD rating without inserting each type to perform the test? I encourage you to read the j684 standard which describes in detail how testing is performed. If you can’t find it on the web I can supply it.
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#26
So Smokeywren when I weighed my truck on a cat scale with WDH not tensioned up and the difference of the Tow vehicle by itself was 760 lbs that would be my tongue weight. Now when I tension up my WDH I should gain at last 100 lbs for payload in tow vehicle.
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Tongue weight doesn't change, but the properly set up WDH does remove some weight from payload by leveraging it to the trailer. That is what he was asking. On my 16 the truck gained back 360 pounds when the hitch was engaged.
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Grumpy Old Man
The actual TW doesn't change, but the payload capacity used by hitch weight does change - because some of the hitch weight is distributed off the axles of the tow vehicle.
Last edited by smokeywren; 05-23-2019 at 04:12 PM.