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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 07:26 PM
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I currently have a F250 Tremor that I tow a Jayco TT that is listed at 6765# empty. I’m thinking about downgrading to a F150 with 6500# gvrw package with class IV hitch. F150 I’m looking at has 2.7 EB and 3.55 gears. Ford’s documentation says it’s capable of 7600# towing. I always tow the trailer dry and I live in Florida so it’s flat as hell, but maybe will tow though some hills. Anyone tow this much with a similar F150 with the 2.7 EB?
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Old Feb 4, 2022 | 07:59 PM
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The payload is going to be the thing you'll have to watch. Most of the F150 Supercrew trucks with the 2.7 don't have a lot to work with. That's going to be close to 1000 lbs on your suspension with a 6800 lb trailer. And it will be heavier than 6800 lbs. A lot of those trucks only have 1300-1500 lbs payload. Make sure of that before you proceed.
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 12:48 AM
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"Class IV hitch" is another name for the 53b tow package which limits you to 6000lbs on the 2022 2.7 platform. For any engine model F150 it needs to have the Trailer Tow Package (53a) or the Max Trailer Tow Package (53c) else you will be under spec to tow your trailer. See the "2022 Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide" for whatever model year you are considering and pay very close attention to the details in the superscripts.

For reference I tow a Grand Design 2400BH 7495 GVWR tt with a 2020 F150 xlt 2.7 screw 145 wb 3.73 53a rwd and 1600 lbs payload just fine in the hills of eastern TN. No problems in the power plant department at all if you feed it 91/93 octane. Payload and suspension are a little lacking. I added RAS because even with WDH I had some squat in the back as well as porpoising on bumps/resonances, all fully resolved by RAS. If you go 2.7 I'd say get the payload package upgrade otherwise you're cutting it real close.

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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ejk905
"Class IV hitch" is another name for the 53b tow package which limits you to 6000lbs on the 2022 2.7 platform. For any engine model F150 it needs to have the Trailer Tow Package (53a) or the Max Trailer Tow Package (53c) else you will be under spec to tow your trailer. See the "2022 Ford RV & Trailer Towing Guide" for whatever model year you are considering and pay very close attention to the details in the superscripts.

For reference I tow a Grand Design 2400BH 7495 GVWR tt with a 2020 F150 xlt 2.7 screw 145 wb 3.73 53a rwd and 1600 lbs payload just fine in the hills of eastern TN. No problems in the power plant department at all if you feed it 91/93 octane. Payload and suspension are a little lacking. I added RAS because even with WDH I had some squat in the back as well as porpoising on bumps/resonances, all fully resolved by RAS. If you go 2.7 I'd say get the payload package upgrade otherwise you're cutting it real close.

The truck in question has the Tow Technology Package and according to the 2021 ordering guide that requires 53A or 53C. I don’t see 53C Max Trailer Tow package listed as an option so I have to assume it does have 53A. So according to the Towing Guide max is 7600#.

Tow Technology Package (req. Class IV Trailer Hitch (53B), Trailer Tow Package (53A) or Max Trailer
Tow Package (53C); req. Ford Co-Pilot360TM 2.0 (43A))
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 04:46 AM
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I tow a Passport 2521RL 5500 Lbs. dry 1752 on the payload 635lbs on the hitch (dry) with a Blue Ox not sure of the installed options but it tows fine I live in FL as well. I had the factory brake controller installed truck came with a hitch a 7PIN and 4 PIN connector and thats really all I know as a window sticker did not come with mine as it was a built demo (good deal) wish I had the window sticker but I have to guess for now.
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dthiss
The truck in question has the Tow Technology Package and according to the 2021 ordering guide that requires 53A or 53C. I don’t see 53C Max Trailer Tow package listed as an option so I have to assume it does have 53A. So according to the Towing Guide max is 7600#.

Tow Technology Package (req. Class IV Trailer Hitch (53B), Trailer Tow Package (53A) or Max Trailer
Tow Package (53C); req. Ford Co-Pilot360TM 2.0 (43A))
The way you have quoted this, it appears that the Tow Tech package has to be ordered on a vehicle that has a receiver - 53A, B, or C - any will do. That would result in the inability to order the Tow Tech package for a vehicle that does NOT have a factory receiver bumper installed. IIRC the 53B is literally JUST the "Class IV Trailer Hitch" but none of the "upgrades" present on the other two packages.

If that is the case, you could potentially be looking at a truck that has the Tow Tech package installed but a tow capacity that's too low for what you need.

As others have indicated, even if the truck you're looking at does have a sufficiently high tow rating, you have to pay very close attention to the payload: weight actually carried by the pickup's suspension. My 3.5 EB w/ Max Tow would handle that just fine, however, rounding up to 7,000 lbs (to make math easy) and a 10% tongue weight (700 lbs), I'd have to use a weight distributing hitch and that would lower my available payload to about 700 lbs. For the wife and I, that would be more than sufficient... add in the full-grown off-spring, and that gets shaved down considerably. My truck is rated for approx 11,500 lb tow capacity, so that trailer would still be 4,500 lbs BELOW max and I could potentially run out of payload.

IOW: if the truck you're looking at truly is rated at 7,000 lbs and you have sufficient available payload for you, any travelling partners, misc stuff in the cabin and bed after subtracting tongue weight, you should be OK. You probably have more than enough payload and tow capacity on your current tow vehicle for your trailer that you probably haven't had to worry too much (if at all) about how much weight you're towing and carrying.
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Grouper63
I tow a Passport 2521RL 5500 Lbs. dry 1752 on the payload 635lbs on the hitch (dry) with a Blue Ox not sure of the installed options but it tows fine I live in FL as well. I had the factory brake controller installed truck came with a hitch a 7PIN and 4 PIN connector and thats really all I know as a window sticker did not come with mine as it was a built demo (good deal) wish I had the window sticker but I have to guess for now.
Go to a Ford Dealer parts counter and ask them (politely) to print a build sheet. If the truck is recent enough, you should be able to get it printed or emailed to you and it will tell you which tow package your truck has.
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Old Feb 5, 2022 | 10:46 AM
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It would be fine.
My 2019 Super crew 4x4 was an XLT with the 302A package and had 1535 payload.

Tow ratings are useless numbers. My current truck is rated for 5,000 lbs but has a 1900 lbs payload. I wouldn't hesitate to exceed the tow rating in some situations.
But I wouldnt really want to overload it.
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Old Feb 13, 2022 | 04:21 PM
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What is the GVWR of the trailer? Forget dry weight unless you are towing it factory fresh as you aint never going to see Dry weight. Also keep in mine, tow ratings are based on J2807, which uses a flat bed style trailer with no frontal area to speak of and 10% tongue weight. A travel trailer has substantially more frontal area, and much heavier tongue weights than the J2807 standards are. In reality the majority of Max Tow 3.5 EB equipped trucks are only good to tow a 7600 GVWR trailer because not enough payload.

Will the 2.7 pull it? Sure, but it will struggle and handle like crap. If you are towing it now with the F250 and it tows nice and easy, you will regret downsizing to an F150.
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Old Feb 13, 2022 | 05:49 PM
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You will dearly miss that F250, just sayin.
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