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Spectators bashing idea of using 3.5 EB to tow 7-8k TT. But why

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Old 01-24-2018, 10:27 AM
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Hi all,

New F150 owner here. I get very confused on the whole what can my truck tow calculation. I have a 2015 F150 XLT Crew Cab with the 3.5L TTV6 Ecoboost and the FX4 package. According to the dealer is can tow up to 11,500LBS. Where I get confused is with all of the GVWR numbers and how to calculate exactly what the truck can tow. I purchased the truck to two my 2018 Jayco Jayfeather Trailer with has an unloaded weight of 4,350 pounds. Any help would be appreciated.

The hitch does have the weight distribution bars as well at the sway bar.

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Originally Posted by Atlee
Rather than guessing and to prove all those folks wrong, you need to load up the TT, making it ready for a camping trip. You then need to load up your truck, also ready for a camping trip.

Then take the combo to CAT scales, or other heavy duty scales and weight the truck by itself, and with the trailer hooked up.

This will let you know if all those folks are blowing smoke.
I fully plan on it. Shame you can't even tell anyone what you're going to do. I read in a book somewhere that basically said tell no one anything because all it does is invite unfounded criticism 90% of the time. It continues to amaze me, even in this thread, where I made no request for real-world numbers, that even people here feel the need to chime in with "how to calculate GCWR, GVWR, & payload," as if that had absolutely anything to do with my original question, which was if an F150 was in spec with ALL numbers, why do people bash it.

Even if the F150 is within ALL specs (GCWR, GVWR, GAWR & payload), people still put it down and swear that you NEED a bigger truck.
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Originally Posted by diverdown
Hi all,

New F150 owner here. I get very confused on the whole what can my truck tow calculation. I have a 2015 F150 XLT Crew Cab with the 3.5L TTV6 Ecoboost and the FX4 package. According to the dealer is can tow up to 11,500LBS. Where I get confused is with all of the GVWR numbers and how to calculate exactly what the truck can tow. I purchased the truck to two my 2018 Jayco Jayfeather Trailer with has an unloaded weight of 4,350 pounds. Any help would be appreciated.

The hitch does have the weight distribution bars as well at the sway bar.

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GCWR is gross combined weight rating of truck and trailer
GVWR is gross weight of truck, including ALL cargo, people, the dog chit on your shoe, & downward force on tongue weight of trailer
GAWR is you maximum allowable weight distributed over that specific axle
Payload is your maximum allowable weight of cargo, passengers, EVERYTHING you plan on carrying in the truck
Hitch max tongue weight is the maximum allowable tongue weight (downward force) for OEM hitch

Look up max-tow for conventional tow
Look up max-tow for gooseneck tow

As long as you stay within ALL five specs listed above, you can tow it. The hitch that comes standard on -my- F150 is only rated for 1320 lbs tongue weight (with WDH), or an 8800 lb trailer (1320 / .15 = 8800). THAT is one of your limiting factors. There may be more. Hopefully other users chime in with anything they know of as well.

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Originally Posted by friesbruh
Shame you can't even tell anyone what you're going to do. I read in a book somewhere that basically said tell no one anything because all it does is invite unfounded criticism 90% of the time.
I personally also find about 90% of people are idiots so I don't tell them anything either lol

But seriously if you are within specs (or close to) your F150 will tow it just fine, these F150's have tons of capability. Would a superduty tow it better, probably, but that isn't your point....your point is yes your F150 will tow it and within specs.
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Originally Posted by friesbruh
2018 F150,
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18,000 GCWR, 10,400 gooseneck,
I see you saying 8800 lbs now, but this post is what I responded to. I thought the 10,400 was the weigh of trailer, wasn't sure if that was empty or not too, and that's why I said what I did. I figured maybe you meant thr trailer empty was 7-8 but loaded was 10,400. Could very well be over some, even if you are under other ratings.

No criticism here. I've overloaded many trucks and trailers before. I don't care about damage or manufacturer ratings themselves, but as I get older I do think more about the risks I was taking with myself and possibly hurting others if I caused a wreck with what I was doing.
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Originally Posted by dajohu
I see you saying 8800 lbs now, but this post is what I responded to. I thought the 10,400 was the weigh of trailer, wasn't sure if that was empty or not too, and that's why I said what I did. I figured maybe you meant thr trailer empty was 7-8 but loaded was 10,400. Could very well be over some, even if you are under other ratings.

No criticism here. I've overloaded many trucks and trailers before. I don't care about damage or manufacturer ratings themselves, but as I get older I do think more about the risks I was taking with myself and possibly hurting others if I caused a wreck with what I was doing.
If you believe I am saying 8800 now then you have not thoroughly read ANY post and are just skimming through, seeing some numbers, and spewing out advice.
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Originally Posted by friesbruh
If you believe I am saying 8800 now then you have not thoroughly read ANY post and are just skimming through, seeing some numbers, and spewing out advice.
I was not giving advice, I even said I won't criticise.

Reread again. Above my first post, it only says 7-8k trailer, and two posts later it says 10,400 gooseneck. What did I miss? After that you went back to the 8800 thing. What does that 10,400 mean and what does it have to do with anything?

Don't be so defensive, not everyone here is attacking you.
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Originally Posted by dajohu
I was not giving advice, I even said I won't criticise.

Reread again. Above my first post, it only says 7-8k trailer, and two posts later it says 10,400 gooseneck. What did I miss? After that you went back to the 8800 thing. What does that 10,400 mean and what does it have to do with anything?

Don't be so defensive, not everyone here is attacking you.
Clearly you missed that the "8800 thing" was answering a question for another user.

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Originally Posted by friesbruh
Clearly you missed that the "8800 thing" was answering a question for another user.
Is it 7-8k or 10,400 then?
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7-8k finished weight

Truck is rated for 10,400 on a gooseneck

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