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Old May 6, 2021 | 08:34 AM
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Correction: no evidence of being previously installed..

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Old May 12, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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My F150 has a front level kit as well, but yeah, when you load the RV, it "looks" squatted because you removed the factory rake. There is this option: The Raptor model rear axle blocks are 1.25" taller than the standard F150 version. I installed those along with the longer U-bolts, and it adds some rake back in, but not as much as stock setup. When loaded, it effectively makes it look level again, but without having the stinkbug stock appearance without a load attached.


The part # is HL3Z-5598-B for the spacer (2 needed), and the longer u-bolts (4 needed) are # HL3Z-5705-A

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Old May 12, 2021 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by therapture
My F150 has a front level kit as well, but yeah, when you load the RV, it "looks" squatted because you removed the factory rake. There is this option: The Raptor model rear axle blocks are 1.25" taller than the standard F150 version. I installed those along with the longer U-bolts, and it adds some rake back in, but not as much as stock setup. When loaded, it effectively makes it look level again, but without having the stinkbug stock appearance without a load attached.


The part # is HL3Z-5598-B for the spacer (2 needed), and the longer u-bolts (4 needed) are # HL3Z-5705-A
man! If that option is used, when your not loaded, the rake would be alot more. You probably loose back end view of cars.

Essentially then youd have to add lift to the front. Its a self defeating purpose. You address one issue while potentially creating another.
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Old May 12, 2021 | 11:40 AM
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No, I think you misunderstand. I have the front raised 2" with a level kit. The truck was level except when loaded, it looked squatted. I then raised the back 1.25" - for a net gain of a .75" front raise. With no load it has a slight rake, but less than stock rake. Now when my RV is loaded or my boat/ski trailer is on, the truck is level and not all squatty looking. I also have a bit bigger tires than stock, 34" instead of 33" - the truck looks great.



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man! If that option is used, when your not loaded, the rake would be alot more. You probably loose back end view of cars.

Essentially then youd have to add lift to the front. Its a self defeating purpose. You address one issue while potentially creating another.
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Old May 12, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by therapture
My F150 has a front level kit as well, but yeah, when you load the RV, it "looks" squatted because you removed the factory rake. There is this option: The Raptor model rear axle blocks are 1.25" taller than the standard F150 version. I installed those along with the longer U-bolts, and it adds some rake back in, but not as much as stock setup. When loaded, it effectively makes it look level again, but without having the stinkbug stock appearance without a load attached.


The part # is HL3Z-5598-B for the spacer (2 needed), and the longer u-bolts (4 needed) are # HL3Z-5705-A
I did look at this option as well. The biggest disadvantage was my wife is relatively short and it would raise the bed height when unloaded. Not a lot like you indicate but a bit more. With my bigger tires already there she complains about this already. I guess the benefit is she doesn't steal my truck very often.

My tires are 295/70R18 which is about a 34.5".
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Old May 12, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by therapture
No, I think you misunderstand. I have the front raised 2" with a level kit. The truck was level except when loaded, it looked squatted. I then raised the back 1.25" - for a net gain of a .75" front raise. With no load it has a slight rake, but less than stock rake. Now when my RV is loaded or my boat/ski trailer is on, the truck is level and not all squatty looking. I also have a bit bigger tires than stock, 34" instead of 33" - the truck looks great.
yea i mostly did misunderstand.

I too have a 2" leveling kit on the front only, i love it, altho when i throw a trailer or anything heavy in the back, it tends to squat.
Adding height to the back to compensate for squat, from my understanding, adds in some rake.... why not just go with a smaller width leveling kit... like say .. a 1inch, or less..

My assumption and understanding

not to say that your idea is bad or good, cause neither is mine... its options given😁
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Old May 12, 2021 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OTTO[AL]
yea i mostly did misunderstand.

I too have a 2" leveling kit on the front only, i love it, altho when i throw a trailer or anything heavy in the back, it tends to squat.
Adding height to the back to compensate for squat, from my understanding, adds in some rake.... why not just go with a smaller width leveling kit... like say .. a 1inch, or less..

My assumption and understanding

not to say that your idea is bad or good, cause neither is mine... its options given😁
He might have been able to go with a lower lift with 34" tires but it really depends on how big you go on the tires. I don't think my tires would clear with only say a 1" front lift. While in his case is basic end lift is about 3/4" the entire front end is still 2" higher allowing clearance for the 34" tires.
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Old May 12, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorblue92
Just installed those on my truck and so far I'm very happy with them. They did raise the rear of the truck up about 3/4" which should account for the squatting when towing.
Just to followup the RAS has basically cured the squatting when towing and after dialing in my hitch has also nearly eliminated any sway in windy conditions.
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Old May 13, 2021 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sennister
He might have been able to go with a lower lift with 34" tires but it really depends on how big you go on the tires. I don't think my tires would clear with only say a 1" front lift. While in his case is basic end lift is about 3/4" the entire front end is still 2" higher allowing clearance for the 34" tires.

Yeah, I wanted SOME rake, just not as much as stock, so I reduced the ratio of front end to rear end rake by raising the front 2" over stock and then adding back in about 1/2 of the factory rake by raising the back end 1.25" - plus I needed clearane for the larger tires.

I think we have taken this about as far as we need to :-)
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