Increasing my payload
09-18-2014, 07:58 AM
#21
Toy Hauler or not, I don't possibly see how your published tongue weight will DECREASE with putting stuff in your trailer, that just doesn't make sense to me.
With that said, if all you were was 200lbs over your yellow tag payload when loaded up then I wouldn't even bat an eye. Trailer length/height versus truck wheel base and where/how you are towing are going to make much more of a difference than being 200lbs over.
I am all for pushing a truck to the limits and over as I wouldn't hesitate to put a pallet of Quikrete in my truck. But I will be getting a new tow vehicle prior to the next camping season, primarily because of how my truck handles in stiffer winds on a highway. Whether that's trading in my 2013 for a newer 3/4 ton truck or getting a 10 year old 3/4 or 1 ton is yet to be seen.
With that said, if all you were was 200lbs over your yellow tag payload when loaded up then I wouldn't even bat an eye. Trailer length/height versus truck wheel base and where/how you are towing are going to make much more of a difference than being 200lbs over.
I am all for pushing a truck to the limits and over as I wouldn't hesitate to put a pallet of Quikrete in my truck. But I will be getting a new tow vehicle prior to the next camping season, primarily because of how my truck handles in stiffer winds on a highway. Whether that's trading in my 2013 for a newer 3/4 ton truck or getting a 10 year old 3/4 or 1 ton is yet to be seen.
09-18-2014, 08:40 AM
#22
09-18-2014, 09:10 AM
#23
Toy Hauler or not, I don't possibly see how your published tongue weight will DECREASE with putting stuff in your trailer, that just doesn't make sense to me.
With that said, if all you were was 200lbs over your yellow tag payload when loaded up then I wouldn't even bat an eye. Trailer length/height versus truck wheel base and where/how you are towing are going to make much more of a difference than being 200lbs over.
I am all for pushing a truck to the limits and over as I wouldn't hesitate to put a pallet of Quikrete in my truck. But I will be getting a new tow vehicle prior to the next camping season, primarily because of how my truck handles in stiffer winds on a highway. Whether that's trading in my 2013 for a newer 3/4 ton truck or getting a 10 year old 3/4 or 1 ton is yet to be seen.
With that said, if all you were was 200lbs over your yellow tag payload when loaded up then I wouldn't even bat an eye. Trailer length/height versus truck wheel base and where/how you are towing are going to make much more of a difference than being 200lbs over.
I am all for pushing a truck to the limits and over as I wouldn't hesitate to put a pallet of Quikrete in my truck. But I will be getting a new tow vehicle prior to the next camping season, primarily because of how my truck handles in stiffer winds on a highway. Whether that's trading in my 2013 for a newer 3/4 ton truck or getting a 10 year old 3/4 or 1 ton is yet to be seen.
09-18-2014, 09:12 AM
#24
DRY - 6,350 lbs
DRY Tongue - 980 lbs
MAX - 8,800 lbs
It seems to me, that if you load the trailer to the max, and in such a manner that you decrease the tongue weight, you will have a terrible sway problem (like loading a skidsteer on the *** end of the equipment trailer instead of over the axles or even farther forward). I suppose what I meant was I don't see why you'd WANT to decrease your tongue weight. If anything, status quo is probably the sweet spot.
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.
09-18-2014, 09:19 AM
#25
Hey Nautique if you are still thinking about the KZ MXT303, here is my experience so far with only 5 nights camping.
1. Cable does not work at any of the 3 outlets. Had to bring it in through the window.
2. Water gushes out from under the trailer whether we are using water from the holding tank or the site's water.
3. One curtain retainer screw pulled out from wall.
4. Caulking done by a 3rd grader.
5. Window weather stripping at 2 windows coming off.
6. Just tonight I found the black water did not want to come out when I hooked up.
7. Holes made for utilities must have been "drilled" with a 3lb hammer.
We are on a 3 week trip now so it will back to the dealer when we get home.
But hey, it looks good. I am very frustrated at this point.
But hey, it looks nice.
1. Cable does not work at any of the 3 outlets. Had to bring it in through the window.
2. Water gushes out from under the trailer whether we are using water from the holding tank or the site's water.
3. One curtain retainer screw pulled out from wall.
4. Caulking done by a 3rd grader.
5. Window weather stripping at 2 windows coming off.
6. Just tonight I found the black water did not want to come out when I hooked up.
7. Holes made for utilities must have been "drilled" with a 3lb hammer.
We are on a 3 week trip now so it will back to the dealer when we get home.
But hey, it looks good. I am very frustrated at this point.
But hey, it looks nice.
09-18-2014, 09:25 AM
#26
I get that and rereading what I wrote I find what I wanted to say was not that! If you look at the KZ MXT303 as follows:
DRY - 6,350 lbs
DRY Tongue - 980 lbs
MAX - 8,800 lbs
It seems to me, that if you load the trailer to the max, and in such a manner that you decrease the tongue weight, you will have a terrible sway problem (like loading a skidsteer on the *** end of the equipment trailer instead of over the axles or even farther forward). I suppose what I meant was I don't see why you'd WANT to decrease your tongue weight. If anything, status quo is probably the sweet spot.
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.
DRY - 6,350 lbs
DRY Tongue - 980 lbs
MAX - 8,800 lbs
It seems to me, that if you load the trailer to the max, and in such a manner that you decrease the tongue weight, you will have a terrible sway problem (like loading a skidsteer on the *** end of the equipment trailer instead of over the axles or even farther forward). I suppose what I meant was I don't see why you'd WANT to decrease your tongue weight. If anything, status quo is probably the sweet spot.
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.
09-19-2014, 10:52 PM
#27
Senior Member
09-21-2014, 09:39 AM
#28
Senior Member
When we came off the scales on that camping trip I remarked to my wife about being 200lb overweight and she says "that's exactly the weigh of me and both the girls". I said "yup, I know. I know"
09-23-2014, 12:49 AM
#29
Senior Member
It seems to me, that if you load the trailer to the max, and in such a manner that you decrease the tongue weight, you will have a terrible sway problem
I parked a 900lb Goldwing in the garage of our MXT303 and took off for Idaho going the long way on mostly 2-lane roads. The only place where there was a hint of sway was in South Dakota going in to a headwind that was bending large trees over. It seemed to be pushing the whole rig around as a unit. Now that is with a ProPride hitch with 1,400 lb bars. I set the hitch weight at 1,100 lbs.
As an aside that drive through SD east to west is mostly uphill and knocked our MPG to 6.6. OUCH!!
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.[/QUOTE]
I parked a 900lb Goldwing in the garage of our MXT303 and took off for Idaho going the long way on mostly 2-lane roads. The only place where there was a hint of sway was in South Dakota going in to a headwind that was bending large trees over. It seemed to be pushing the whole rig around as a unit. Now that is with a ProPride hitch with 1,400 lb bars. I set the hitch weight at 1,100 lbs.
As an aside that drive through SD east to west is mostly uphill and knocked our MPG to 6.6. OUCH!!
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.[/QUOTE]
09-23-2014, 07:46 AM
#30
It seems to me, that if you load the trailer to the max, and in such a manner that you decrease the tongue weight, you will have a terrible sway problem
I parked a 900lb Goldwing in the garage of our MXT303 and took off for Idaho going the long way on mostly 2-lane roads. The only place where there was a hint of sway was in South Dakota going in to a headwind that was bending large trees over. It seemed to be pushing the whole rig around as a unit. Now that is with a ProPride hitch with 1,400 lb bars. I set the hitch weight at 1,100 lbs.
As an aside that drive through SD east to west is mostly uphill and knocked our MPG to 6.6. OUCH!!
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.
I parked a 900lb Goldwing in the garage of our MXT303 and took off for Idaho going the long way on mostly 2-lane roads. The only place where there was a hint of sway was in South Dakota going in to a headwind that was bending large trees over. It seemed to be pushing the whole rig around as a unit. Now that is with a ProPride hitch with 1,400 lb bars. I set the hitch weight at 1,100 lbs.
As an aside that drive through SD east to west is mostly uphill and knocked our MPG to 6.6. OUCH!!
But, I am just spit-balling here, no actual experience.
So how did the MXT work out? Did you get the issues/problems solved?
