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Old 09-16-2014, 01:44 PM
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I wouldn't worry about 200lbs.. But I'm one of "those" guys.... I might think different, if I was gonna be pulling it full time or in the Mountains..
Old 09-16-2014, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Nautique
I saw a pic of that in the show me yours thread. Can you back with that thing ?
That I don't know. You may want to PM the OP of that thread and ask him.
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I've never quite "believed" in the rated payload of these trucks
My sticker states 6 passenger, cargo + occupants must not be greater then 1,250 lbs (not sure exact wording)
So if there are 6 250 lb guys in the truck I am 250 lbs over the capacity ?
Please......
Does Ford under estimate the payload to avoid liability ?? Probably
But to tell me if I have 6 passengers I can't carry any cargo is just plain stupid
That said I've never had 6 250 lb guys in my truck

I goofed once & miscalculated my load....over 2,000 lbs...forget exactly (pavers)
Never had a single problem, took it slow & was not driving for more then 1 hour
The weight was centered against the back of the cab, I even put some in the cab/front floor to even out the load



Towing a trailer is different, especially when you may be driving 4-8 hours with it behind you
I'd like a trailer that weighs at least #1000 (dry unloaded) under my limit, better safe then sorry
Not worried about 200 lb over, more worried about going up Hills

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Old 09-16-2014, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Nautique
You guys are making me feel bad. I'm just doing my homework BEFORE purchasing a trailer. If I'm only off 200 lbs before loading the rear of the toy hauler, plus the reduction from the WD hitch, I might be below my limit. Plus the wife said she wants to go on a diet anyway.

We have found two more trailers that meet our criteria with less hitch weight, one by 120 lbs, but we we haven't looked at them yet.
If your final numbers are only 200 pounds over payload just hook up and go. I wouldn't even concern myself with 2 or 300 pounds. If it makes you feel better throw some airbags on it.
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Originally Posted by Nautique
I saw a pic of that in the show me yours thread. Can you back with that thing ?
Backing up Trailer Toad
Old 09-16-2014, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
One video is all I need to see of that thing. Not for me
Old 09-16-2014, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Farmboy2012
I wouldn't worry about 200lbs.. But I'm one of "those" guys.... I might think different, if I was gonna be pulling it full time or in the Mountains..
You and me think alike. By the time the trailer is rear loaded and EH installed, I should be good to go.
The only real, for sure way to know is to hook it up and start towing.
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Originally Posted by Nautique
You guys are making me feel bad. I'm just doing my homework BEFORE purchasing a trailer. If I'm only off 200 lbs before loading the rear of the toy hauler, plus the reduction from the WD hitch, I might be below my limit. Plus the wife said she wants to go on a diet anyway.
Do you really want to head out every time you tow at 100% or 110% your rated capacity? How many trips do you think it will take before maximum capacity tows will start to take its toll on your rig? Fast forward a year after you make this decision, and that's the situation that I'm in. Can the F150 pull a few times at maximum capacity? Sure... will it continue to do so after an active season of camping & towing? The jury is still out, but is that a situation you want to be in?

My recommendation is to get the trailer you want, then size your rig accordingly to pull it. Meanwhile, let me go back to F350 shopping
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So, all this hoopla over a couple hundred pounds? Really? For a couple hundred pounds I wouldn't even bat an eye. That rating on your truck? It is designed to safely handle that weight all day long for it's lifetime. Dude. Hook and go.

Smokey- your advice is always sound, but don't smash on people who don't want or can't justify a super duty for towing a couple trips a year. I can recall two threads where you openly admit to being nearly half ton over your GVWR pulling. For you to call out some folks as "idiots" then turn around and do the exact same thing is pretty hypocritical. Sir Isaac Newton doesn't give two craps about all the experience in the world. If he decides to have an issue with you, you won't win. If you followed your own advice you should be driving and F250.
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Hey Nautique if you are still thinking about the KZ MXT303, here is my experience so far with only 5 nights camping.
1. Cable does not work at any of the 3 outlets. Had to bring it in through the window.
2. Water gushes out from under the trailer whether we are using water from the holding tank or the site's water.
3. One curtain retainer screw pulled out from wall.
4. Caulking done by a 3rd grader.
5. Window weather stripping at 2 windows coming off.
6. Just tonight I found the black water did not want to come out when I hooked up.
7. Holes made for utilities must have been "drilled" with a 3lb hammer.




We are on a 3 week trip now so it will back to the dealer when we get home.


But hey, it looks good. I am very frustrated at this point.




But hey, it looks nice.


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