I don't fear operating at GVWR, change my mind :)
03-22-2019, 12:05 PM
#21
F150s are cars masquerading as trucks and are designed with a car duty cycle in mind. Meanwhile F250 and up are viewed as real trucks by Ford and are engineered to operate at rated load for their entire lives. The durability testing between the 150 and 250 up are completely different.
03-22-2019, 12:16 PM
#22
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My prius has a payload if 900 something, which makes my F150s payload of 1900 not “car-like.”
03-22-2019, 12:26 PM
#23
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I would NOT say the F150 is a car masquerading as a truck. Sure, it's a lot more comfortable than the trucks we remember from the disco days, but it also has a lot more payload and tow capacity. Today's 1/2 ton is more capable than even a decade ago.
Maybe Missmy06 has never considered a 1/2 ton truck a truck? Last I checked, the only true not-trucks have unibody construction, but every half-decade we are seeing larger unibodies. The expedition is probably next, surely followed by the F150. We will eventually be able to truly rejoice in being not-truck truck owners.
Maybe Missmy06 has never considered a 1/2 ton truck a truck? Last I checked, the only true not-trucks have unibody construction, but every half-decade we are seeing larger unibodies. The expedition is probably next, surely followed by the F150. We will eventually be able to truly rejoice in being not-truck truck owners.
03-22-2019, 03:43 PM
#24
Well, actually, there is some tiny bit of truth, just not the way it was put. An F150 will never compare to a car, however, there is Consumer grade, and Commercial grade. The F150 falls under Consumer grade, which is the regular buying public, and the F150 is just that, a regular commuter vehicle that is also a work vehicle. Superduty truck OTOH would be considered Commercial grade as their target user is contractors, landscapers, haulers, etc.
Consumer grade is not considered something that will be beat on with heavy hauling and other abuse, and the target audience is more towards the average adult who wants a nice vehicle that can do some hard work on the weekends, the Lariat and up fall generally into this category, and the XL/XLT fall into the hard worker category who need a truck for their job, but don't need the capacity of a Superduty.
Consumer grade is not considered something that will be beat on with heavy hauling and other abuse, and the target audience is more towards the average adult who wants a nice vehicle that can do some hard work on the weekends, the Lariat and up fall generally into this category, and the XL/XLT fall into the hard worker category who need a truck for their job, but don't need the capacity of a Superduty.
03-22-2019, 04:23 PM
#25
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Well, actually, there is some tiny bit of truth, just not the way it was put. An F150 will never compare to a car, however, there is Consumer grade, and Commercial grade. The F150 falls under Consumer grade, which is the regular buying public, and the F150 is just that, a regular commuter vehicle that is also a work vehicle. Superduty truck OTOH would be considered Commercial grade as their target user is contractors, landscapers, haulers, etc.
Consumer grade is not considered something that will be beat on with heavy hauling and other abuse, and the target audience is more towards the average adult who wants a nice vehicle that can do some hard work on the weekends, the Lariat and up fall generally into this category, and the XL/XLT fall into the hard worker category who need a truck for their job, but don't need the capacity of a Superduty.
Consumer grade is not considered something that will be beat on with heavy hauling and other abuse, and the target audience is more towards the average adult who wants a nice vehicle that can do some hard work on the weekends, the Lariat and up fall generally into this category, and the XL/XLT fall into the hard worker category who need a truck for their job, but don't need the capacity of a Superduty.
03-22-2019, 05:45 PM
#26
For example, if you have a high trim level truck with a payload capacity of around 1600 lbs and an XL with a high payload capacity of around 3000 lbs. The high trim level will be nearly maxed out with a 1500 lb payload, while the payload on the XL will only be at 50% capacity when hauling the same weight.
03-22-2019, 06:28 PM
#27
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Really it depends. One way to look at it, is if you get an XL with a much higher payload capacity than a high trim level model with a lower capacity, then they payload you haul in each (of equal weight) will be less stressful on the XL.
For example, if you have a high trim level truck with a payload capacity of around 1600 lbs and an XL with a high payload capacity of around 3000 lbs. The high trim level will be nearly maxed out with a 1500 lb payload, while the payload on the XL will only be at 50% capacity when hauling the same weight.
For example, if you have a high trim level truck with a payload capacity of around 1600 lbs and an XL with a high payload capacity of around 3000 lbs. The high trim level will be nearly maxed out with a 1500 lb payload, while the payload on the XL will only be at 50% capacity when hauling the same weight.
03-22-2019, 06:55 PM
#28
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I gave it zero thought on any truck or SUV I've had in the past 30 years until I signed up for this place.
It was pretty clear if my truck couldn't do the job, or maybe I was smart enough not to pull a D3 Cat 300 miles uphill.
It was pretty clear if my truck couldn't do the job, or maybe I was smart enough not to pull a D3 Cat 300 miles uphill.
03-22-2019, 08:02 PM
#29
If truck #1 wears more than truck #2, when truck #1 wears to the point of equipment failure or requiring maintenance, at that point the difference will be detectable.
03-23-2019, 11:04 AM
#30
No, thats not what I was saying. All F150 drivetrains and suspensions are the same from the XL up to the Limited, what I was saying is that MARKETING focuses their higher trims on the average consumer who wants a fancy grocery getter, and the XL and XLT is marketed more towards the contractor or construction worker as work trucks for those who have no need for a superduty. You don't need a medium duty truck to haul around a few ladders and a tool box, and that is how Ford markets their truck lines. Ever wonder why the XLT gets the best discounts? It's the trim line most contractors would buy. The XL is perfect for those who work dirty jobs and would track muck and whatever else they work in into the truck, the XLT is more for those who use the truck for work, but don't have to worry too much about getting it full of mud and other filth.