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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 06:59 PM
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Hi Guys,
I have spent the last couple of hours trying to sort out what my truck can tow and would appreciate some help.

2018 Super Crew XLT Sport 3.5EB, 3.55 axle
7000# GVWR package
Trailer tow package
Added factory brake controller

1. What is the factory hitch that comes on the truck? Class 3 or Class 4?
2. I was hoping to tow a 7000 lb 27 foot toy hauler with about 2500 lb in cargo= max of 10000 lb

I cannot for the life of me figure out if I am OK to buy this trailer or not.

Any help would be appreciated
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 07:55 PM
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https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...VTTowGuide.pdf
Originally Posted by Stryker Guy
Hi Guys,
I have spent the last couple of hours trying to sort out what my truck can tow and would appreciate some help.

2018 Super Crew XLT Sport 3.5EB, 3.55 axle
7000# GVWR package
Trailer tow package
Added factory brake controller

1. What is the factory hitch that comes on the truck? Class 3 or Class 4?
2. I was hoping to tow a 7000 lb 27 foot toy hauler with about 2500 lb in cargo= max of 10000 lb

I cannot for the life of me figure out if I am OK to buy this trailer or not.

Any help would be appreciated
10,000lbs quick guess, not likely but you can look further here:

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...VTTowGuide.pdf
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBoost
Tongue weight is what matters. I have yet to see a truck that can tow its GCWR without running out of payload first.

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I realize that this is a very old post, but just to state that such trucks (while somewhat uncommon) do exist. Mine is one of them.
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Stryker Guy
Hi Guys,
I have spent the last couple of hours trying to sort out what my truck can tow and would appreciate some help.

2018 Super Crew XLT Sport 3.5EB, 3.55 axle
7000# GVWR package
Trailer tow package
Added factory brake controller

1. What is the factory hitch that comes on the truck? Class 3 or Class 4?
Class 3 = up to 500 pounds tongue weight (TW) with a weight carrying (WC) hitch. Class 4 = up to 1,000 pounds TW with a weight-distributing (WD) hitch. Class 5 = over 1,000 pounds TW.

So the OEM receiver on your 2018 is class 3 WC or class 4 WD.

2. I was hoping to tow a 7000 lb 27 foot toy hauler with about 2500 lb in cargo= max of 10000 lb

I cannot for the life of me figure out if I am OK to buy this trailer or not.
Depends, but you can bet the farm that you'll be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150. GVWR of the tow vehicle is probably your limiter without being overloaded. A properly loaded receiver-pull toy hauler that weighs 10,000 pounds will have about 1,300 pounds tongue weight (TW). Add the weight of a good WD/sway control hitch and your hitch weight is about 1,400 pounds. 7,000 minus 1,400 = 5,600 pounds max weight of your wet and loaded F-150 before you hitch up to the trailer. Weigh (don't WAG) your wet and loaded F-150 and you'll probably see it weighs a lot more than 5,600 pounds. So you'll probably be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150.

And that's with a "bumper pull" toy hauler trailer. A fifth-wheel or gooseneck trailer and hitch will probably be over 2,000 pounds hitch weight, so you'll be even more overloaded with a trailer that grosses 10,000 pounds.

Your wonderful drivetrain will have plenty of power to pull that trailer over the Rockies, but your suspension will be overloaded trying to CARRY the weight of your family and stuff and hitch weight.


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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by smokeywren
Class 3 = up to 500 pounds tongue weight (TW) with a weight carrying (WC) hitch. Class 4 = up to 1,000 pounds TW with a weight-distributing (WD) hitch. Class 5 = over 1,000 pounds TW.

So the OEM receiver on your 2018 is class 3 WC or class 4 WD.



Depends, but you can bet the farm that you'll be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150. GVWR of the tow vehicle is probably your limiter without being overloaded. A properly loaded receiver-pull toy hauler that weighs 10,000 pounds will have about 1,300 pounds tongue weight (TW). Add the weight of a good WD/sway control hitch and your hitch weight is about 1,400 pounds. 7,000 minus 1,400 = 5,600 pounds max weight of your wet and loaded F-150 before you hitch up to the trailer. Weigh (don't WAG) your wet and loaded F-150 and you'll probably see it weighs a lot more than 5,600 pounds. So you'll probably be overloaded over the payload capacity of your F-150.

And that's with a "bumper pull" toy hauler trailer. A fifth-wheel or gooseneck trailer and hitch will probably be over 2,000 pounds hitch weight, so you'll be even more overloaded with a trailer that grosses 10,000 pounds.

Your wonderful drivetrain will have plenty of power to pull that trailer over the Rockies, but your suspension will be overloaded trying to CARRY the weight of your family and stuff and hitch weight.
Thanks for the input. Is there something I can do to the suspension or to the truck in general to change this? From what I found in the 2018 brochure, I should be able to tow 11k but I would not go that high.
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Old Jul 22, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Stryker Guy
Hi Guys,
I have spent the last couple of hours trying to sort out what my truck can tow and would appreciate some help.

2018 Super Crew XLT Sport 3.5EB, 3.55 axle
7000# GVWR package
Trailer tow package
Added factory brake controller

1. What is the factory hitch that comes on the truck? Class 3 or Class 4?
2. I was hoping to tow a 7000 lb 27 foot toy hauler with about 2500 lb in cargo= max of 10000 lb

I cannot for the life of me figure out if I am OK to buy this trailer or not.

Any help would be appreciated
4x4 (Based on GVWR) = GCWR 16100 and TTR 10700.

My truck has a payload of 1907 and is close to yours.

1900 - 1400 (13% Tongue and 100 WDH) leaves 500 lb in driver, occupants and cargo you could add to the truck.

You need to work the numbers on your own but a typical toy hauler will be 12-14.5% on the tongue, check your yellow sticker for actual payload and remember to deduct any accessories you may have added.

PS Most people who have attempted to tow a 10,000 lb toy hauler with a half ton have not had a happy experience. It's a lot different than a open utility trailer of the same weight.

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