slwryd66

hi guys new to the forum and looking for some sound info. I own a 2011 f150(no tow package) 2wd reg cab long bed 5.o, with 3:31 locker. I have a 7050 gvwr Package(not sure what that means).My payload says 2109lbs. I have a U-Haul hitch With a 11oolbs wdh rating. I am installing a tranny cooler and a pml pan. I would like to purchess a pro pride hitch(200lbs) and a Forrest river 19RR. It weighs 4142 dry 574 tongue weight and carries 3432lbs. I have a 2012 street glide that weighs about 882lbs. Can I do it?

smokeywren

The 7050 GVWR pkg means the GVWR of your truck is 7,050 pounds. That's the most weight that can be on your two truck axles without being overloaded, and that is probably your limiter as to the weight of any trailer you can tow without being overloaded.


GVWR minus payload rating is the most your truck can weigh and still have that much payload rating. So you have payload rating of 2109 pounds only when your wet and loaded truck weighs 4941 or less.


Your GCWR 13500, tow rating 8,400. GCWR minus tow rating again gives you the max weight of the wet and loaded truck and still have that much tow rating. So you can tow a trailer that grosses up to 8,400 pounds only when your wet and loaded truck grosses less than 5,100 pounds. That 159 pound difference in the two max truck weights is because of the skinny driver that's included in the tow rating but not the payload rating.


4142 dry plus 3432 cargo capacity = 7574 max GVWR of the trailer. Dry hitch weight is useless spec, so use 15% of the GVWR = 1,136 pounds max hitch weight. So when you order your ProPride hitch, be sure to get one rated for at least 1,200 pounds hitch weight.

Your receiver hitch is not quite strong enough if you have the full 1136 pounds tongue weight. So load the trailer carefully so as not to exceed 1100 pounds tongue weight

Probably, but you'll have to pay attention to weights. And you must add those items that were part of the trailer tow pkg that your truck doesn't have. OTA tranny cooler and Super Cooling radiator. 7-pin wiring harness including trailer brake wire. Integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC). Plus I wouldn't tie onto a 7,500 pound trailer without a good tranny temp gauge. Your XLT has a so-so tranny temp gauge in the dash, but it's not good enough for me. I'd use the stock gauge only as an alarm to tell me to check the real aftermarket tranny temp gauge. With a good aftermarket tranny temp gauge with the sender in the sump (bottom of the pan), 225° is the red line. Don't allow more than 225° tranny sump temp.

You have plenty of GCWR and tow rating to tow a 7,500 pound trailer, after you install the tranny cooler and super cooling radiator that were part of the trailer tow pkg.

GVWR will probably be your limiter. With over 1,100 pounds hitch weight, that leaves 1000 pounds max for driver, passenger(s) pets, tools, jacks, campfire wood, and anything else that you want to haul in the truck.

acadianbob

Something doesn't seem right with your figures. I have a hard time believing that your truck weighs less than 5,000 pounds. Can you double check your numbers?

If you truly have 2,000 pounds of payload, (did you get that off of the sticker in your door jam?), you should be able to tow that trailer.

slwryd66

yes, I believe it was the yellow sticker

PerryB

This is my OPINION. You have a truck with a relatively small, low torque engine and a fairly high (numerically low) rear gear ratio. Regardless of what trans cooler you install it still has a small radiator and keeping the engine cool is going to require attention. If you plan on traveling any significant distances or through any mountainous terrain I think you will be finding yourself truck shopping not long after buying the trailer.
If you want to keep this truck and haul the H.D. and the trailer I would consider doing all the things Smokey mentioned plus re-gearing it to a 3.73 or 4.10 Personally I would go with the 4.10 as this better suites the narrow torque range of this engine. As far as the aftermarket trans. pan, It'll do very little to reduce your operating temps. despite manufacturers claims. Airbags will also improve the overall stability and help keep it level without going overboard on the spring bars, which induces sway. Each airbag should have its own fill valve, don't tee them together.

I'm probably going to catch some flak over the low torque comment so I'll clarify it now. The 5.0 has a torque peak that, in and of itself, seems to be pretty impressive for 302 cubes until you look at the graph and see it looks like the Matterhorn. It has a narrow tall peak and drops off quickly after the peak has been reached. The low rear end will make it much easier to stay near the peak and get the best towing performance.

slwryd66

I have the factory tranny cooler going in. I have a set of 3.73 gears for it, but I'm having a hard time finding the radiator. I'm getting the autometer tranny gauge. Nobody sofar has said anything about the alternator, will mine work or does the tow package have the same one? I was hoping to do Sturgis.

jeffinthebag

I disagree with that, torque answer. My truck has a 5.0 with a 3.73 and pulls like a dream even with a loaded cargo trailer at approx 10k. So that statement was kind of board. Even my 4.6 with a 3.55 would been okay.
With your statement, you might of just of to him to get a diesel.

PerryB

I respect and support your right to disagree. I also stand behind my torque statement, word for word. The 5.0 has a very narrow torque peak. It's a high peak, but you have to keep the engine within a narrow RPM range to utilize it.

PerryB

The stock alternator is fine. All it'll be doing is maintaining the house batteries and running a few extra lamps going down the road. How much does Ford want for the radiator? the last time I bought one from them it wasn't out of line, price wise. Don't remember the number but it didn't make me flinch.

slwryd66

hey smokeywren how do you like the propride hitch? I looked on their website and they only have 1000# or 1400# wdh bars, should I go with the 1400# then?