5.0GN tow

You have a tranny cooler the tow package comes with an external cooler.

THX1138

so how do you guys know my truck doesn't have the heavy duty tow package? is because on the sticker on the door shows my max cargo is 1350lbs? u would think the proper tow package would come with the truck. in the ford manuel it actuall says under towing that a f150 3.5 ecoboost not to pull a trailer with a weight over 5000lbs.

THX1138

not sure if this makes a difference but my truck is a F-150 ECOBOOST 3.5 XLT but on the back side of the box says XTR

THX1138

Just looking at the Trailer Towing Package options, and there are 3 options there is the F150 (STD)/ F150(535)/ F150 MAX TRAILER TOW PACKAGE. Under all those options there is only one that includes the TRAILER BRAKE CONTROL, and that's the max tow package, and I have that installed in the truck, so I am guessing I have the Max tow package so I should be able to pull more???


Im going to for tomorrow Ill let u guys know what they say, lol...


Thanks for all the help and info. As far as the trailer goes I think were going to look for a smaller and lighter trailer just to be on the safe side. something in the 4000 pound range.

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smokeywren

The Integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC) is part of the Max Tow Pkg, but it is optional with the regular tow pkg.


We know you don't have Max Tow because your GVWR is the standard 7,200 pounds for a 4x4. Max Tow includes an additional 500-or-so pounds GVWR.



We have almost identical payload capacities. I have 7,100 GVWR with my 4x2 EcoBoost drivetrain. You have 7,200 pounds GVWR with your heavier 4x4 drivetrain. When wet and loaded for a long cross-country RV trip, My GVW is 7,200 pounds, or overloaded by 100 pounds. And my TT grosses only 4,870 pounds when wet and loaded on the road.


So yeah, you need a light-weight TT with GVWR less than 6,000 pounds that you can load to around 4,500 pounds - if you don't want to exceed the GVWR of your F-150. Even then you must be careful of the weight you haul in the truck and trailer. Travel with empty holding tanks, don't haul heavy pots and pans and dishes. My well-stocked toolbox is probably what puts me over the GVWR, but I insist on having plenty of toolsand jacks when on the road - just in case.


Since you have the truck, here's the drill:


1] Load the truck with everyone and everything that will be in it when towing. Include the head of the WD hitch, any tools, campfire wood, etc.


2] Drive to a truckstop that has a certified truck scale and fill up with gas. Then weigh the wet and loaded truck.


3] Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded truck from the GVWR of the truck. The answer is the max hitch weight you can have without exceeding the GVWR of the truck.


4] Divide that max hitch weight by 0.15 and the answer is the max GVWR of any TT you want to consider.

Wally186

If you had the max tow package, you would have a heavy duty receiver (1150 lbs compared to the standard 1050 lbs) trailer tow mirrors, a 3.73 gear ratio and an bigger tranny cooler.

KR Kodi

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I don't know why you can't understand what the highly knowledgeable people here are telling you - you DO NOT have the Max Tow package!!!!


Take a look at the Ford Canada brochure:


http://www.albiford.com/adminstation...Field_11_1.pdf




Scroll down to page 14 and take a look at the bottom right of that page where it talks about the XTR package, that you have. It says "n/a with the Heavy-Duty Payload Package". That means that you DO NOT have the HD option.

Just above the XTR info is info about the standard and Max Tow packages. The cooling stuff is the same for both tow packages. The only additional things in the Max Tow are it says "restrictions apply" (and that restriction is a 3.73 rear end), a TBC (Trailer Brake Controller), and an "upgraded rear bumper". The TBC is a stand-alone option and can be ordered with the standard tow package. The upgraded bumper can only be obtained by getting the Max Tow package. You have posted a picture of the sticker on your hitch and it says that with a WDH you can tow a max weight trailer of 10,500 lbs with a max tongue weight of 1050. The hitch on the "upgraded rear bumper" has a sticker that shows a max trailer weight of 11,500 lbs with a max tongue weight of 1150. The sticker on your hitch confirms that you DO NOT HAVE THE MAX TOW PACKAGE!!!


Additionally, scroll down to page 22. Look for your truck and you'll see that the 3.5 EB 4x4 with a GVWR of 7200 lbs is on the top line of that section. Go to the right and you'll see that under the SCrew 145 wb column that a truck like yours can have a max payload of 1520 lbs. The sticker on your truck shows you have a 1355 lb payload capacity - that means that your truck has 165 lbs of factory options that reduced that 1520 down to your 1355 lbs.


The only other truck in the the SCrew 4x4 section has a 1900 lb max payload (and there is a #4 footnote reference for that weight). Look to the left and you'll see that a truck like that has a 7650 lb GVWR. Also, look down at footnote #4 and it says "4. Requires Max. Trailer Tow Package". You DO NOT have a 7650 GVWR or anything close to a 1900 lb payload, therefore you DO NOT HAVE THE MAX TOW PACKAGE!!!!


Scroll to page 23 and look at the info for your truck. There are two weights displayed for 3.5L EB SCrew 3.55 rear end 145 wb 4x4 trucks. The top one has a #5 footnote reference, and that footnote says that weight is for the Limited model. Therefore, your truck is the one with the "max loaded trailer weight rating" of 9600 lbs, and a GCWR of 15,500 lbs.


If you look down in the 3.73 rear end section you can see a truck like yours with a higher max trailer weight and GCWR, but it has a #4 footnote - and that footnote says Max Tow package required. That means that you can't get the Max Tow unless you have the 3.73 rear end.


Bottom line - you have the STANDARD TOW PACKAGE with a TBC added as an option. You can see that your hitch says that with a WDH you can pull a 10,500 lb trailer, and the "sales" brochure says your max trailer weight is 9600 lbs.


However.....from the simple math addition/subtraction we've done based on YOUR payload capacity of 1355 lbs, you can't pull close to either of those weights - with your family, tonneau cover, and other stuff you might load into your truck before you hook up the trailer, you will be limited to a trailer less than 7000 lbs (probably much less!) in order to be within weight limit ratings of your truck, and in order to tow comfortably and safely.


Those max trailer weights they publish are with nothing in the truck but a skinny 150 lb driver. When you add family, dogs, firewood, tools in the cab/bed the weights of a trailer you can pull go way down. Just like the payload capacity that is listed is above your truck's payload capacity, those "sales" brochure weights are based on no frills/zero option trucks. Your payload capacity and the trailer weight you can pull are going to be much less than the "sales" brochure weights.

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smokeywren

Read it again. It says not to exceed 5,000 pounds if you tow with the step bumper as your hitch platform. And not to exceed 5,000 pounds with a receiver hitch platform UNLESS you add a weight-distributing hitch. With the right hitch and the right options on your truck you can tow a lot heavier trailer than 5,000 pounds without exceeding any of Ford's weight limits.


Ford says you can tow a trailer grossing more than 11,000 pounds if you have the heavy duty payload package combined with the max tow package. However, good luck in trying to tow an 11.000-pound TT without exceeding the GVWR of your properly-optioned F-150.

THX1138

So the trailer we were looking at at first was 30.9feet long with the hitch and dry weight of 5530lbs dry, and the other one were looking at is a little smaller and lighter just to be on the safe side it's only 4790lbs dry and 26foot dry hitch weight is 540. So probley thinking that would be our best bet. There must be a lot of people out there driving overloaded.

Thanks