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Also keep in mind liability. If you knowingly exceed the limits (compounded by posting pictures of yourself doing it), and you have an accident, that kind of information will get found during discovery. You can't say "I didn't know" when you posted, or searched, all over for whether it would be an issue.
Recently a vehicle was towing a skid steer near us. As we went by the accident season (massive EMS response) we could see a mangled truck, with a skid steer implanted in it. Didn't look good for the driver. It appeared to be a single vehicle accident.
Recently a vehicle was towing a skid steer near us. As we went by the accident season (massive EMS response) we could see a mangled truck, with a skid steer implanted in it. Didn't look good for the driver. It appeared to be a single vehicle accident.
Exceeding 500 lbs tongue weight isnt just about the hitch. Its also about the truck. F150's dont have big chunky full floating rear ends. You can overload the rear axle quick with too much tongue weight if you dont use a WDH.
That said, can it do the job? Will it do the job? Sure it will. Just know the rear end will probably be overloaded so how long it lasts will depend greatly on the how frequently its overloaded.
That said, can it do the job? Will it do the job? Sure it will. Just know the rear end will probably be overloaded so how long it lasts will depend greatly on the how frequently its overloaded.
Last edited by mass-hole; Jan 30, 2023 at 03:13 PM.
Which is also why I think its bologna that the 500 lb rating is the same for all F150's regardless of wheelbase or frame, but its just easier that way I imagine.
You are correct. The less easy way requires they run all chassis configurations through the J2807 test. That would be 6 trucks to test for just the F150, and all the other trucks, SUV's and cars and their configurations.
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Oh I do because I own a construction company and have owned more work trucks and vans than I can count. We probably move over a million $ in material a year on our punchlist runs completing projects.
Unless you are overloaded the front axle should remain relatively the same.
And yes I have scaled several times and none have been over with some specific loads we haul. I have also never installed overload springing systems on any dedicated work truck.
I would encourage you to read the owners manual, guides, and go off the engineered ratings. Run WD or change to a better designed hitch to keep from overloading.
The stock hitch set up on the F150 is garbage.
Unless you are overloaded the front axle should remain relatively the same.
And yes I have scaled several times and none have been over with some specific loads we haul. I have also never installed overload springing systems on any dedicated work truck.
I would encourage you to read the owners manual, guides, and go off the engineered ratings. Run WD or change to a better designed hitch to keep from overloading.
The stock hitch set up on the F150 is garbage.
No aftermarket hitch changes the understeer and handling requirements used in the J2807 testing that determined the WC and WD ratings of the trucks. You can put as much hitch as you want back there, the TRUCK is still rated for only 500lb weight carrying.
You are telling everyone to RTFM. Care to point out in the manual where it says these trucks are rated to carry more than 500lb on an aftermarket hitch?
You are telling everyone to RTFM. Care to point out in the manual where it says these trucks are rated to carry more than 500lb on an aftermarket hitch?
Can repost some old screen shots.
FACTORY hitch options. Note: EACH hitch has weight carry capacity labeled on it, the capacity in the chart below is ONLY for the factory optional hitches.
Do not exceed GAWR or GVWR with tongue weight.
Maximum weight requires WD, the chart is shown above; which is 9,100 on my current delivery truck.
I'm still waiting for you to respond with what I requested. Nothing you posted says we can have more weight carrying capacity with an aftermarket hitch.
Also, your thoughts on "hanging" weight with a hitch is misguided. Aftermarket hitches don't magically place the weight somewhere else. They aren't physics defying structures, nothing is.
Aftermarket hitch designers design hitches the way they do because that's the way they've always had to do it. There's no designing the hitch how they want it then fitting the vehicle to the hitch, they have to go with what they are given. They don't extend a bracket here or there because it's better, they do it because there was an attachment point at that location and the distance between the bolts is far enough that the weight placed on the ball won't shift the hitch against the vehicle's frame and cause the bolts to ream out the frame, or the frame to shear the bolts. Two problemsnot eliminated by the oem hitch design.
The name of the game for aftermarket hitch makers is profit. You make more profit where you spend less money. That's why some of their hitches have hardly any metal at all.
Here's a Class V, rated 2000lb WC, doesn't appear to extend far into the frame at all. In fact, you're supposed to just weld it to the end of the frame.
Still waiting for proof that the oem hitches experience significant deflection that degrades ride quality, and that deflection makes them an inferior product.
Also, your thoughts on "hanging" weight with a hitch is misguided. Aftermarket hitches don't magically place the weight somewhere else. They aren't physics defying structures, nothing is.
Aftermarket hitch designers design hitches the way they do because that's the way they've always had to do it. There's no designing the hitch how they want it then fitting the vehicle to the hitch, they have to go with what they are given. They don't extend a bracket here or there because it's better, they do it because there was an attachment point at that location and the distance between the bolts is far enough that the weight placed on the ball won't shift the hitch against the vehicle's frame and cause the bolts to ream out the frame, or the frame to shear the bolts. Two problems
The name of the game for aftermarket hitch makers is profit. You make more profit where you spend less money. That's why some of their hitches have hardly any metal at all.
Here's a Class V, rated 2000lb WC, doesn't appear to extend far into the frame at all. In fact, you're supposed to just weld it to the end of the frame.
Still waiting for proof that the oem hitches experience significant deflection that degrades ride quality, and that deflection makes them an inferior product.
Last edited by Flamingtaco; Feb 3, 2023 at 12:23 AM. Reason: Crossed out a werd






