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Old 09-28-2020, 02:36 PM
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My primary reason for posting is that after reading forums these past couple of years, I have a general mistrust of shops doing the hitch setup work. I have yet to see any of them even take a measurement to the wheel well before and after to check things, so was interested in giving it a go myself.
Most garage monkeys use impact guns on everything unless they know they are being watched. It's no different at an RV dealership. They are under pressure to get each job done as quickly as possible. The more work they get done, the more money the shop makes. Some incentivize everything to get as much out of them in each hour as possible.
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Originally Posted by Gladehound
can you send a picture of the truck / trailer combo hooked up on level ground?
Attached are some pics of the truck and trailer hooked up. Measurements to the front wheel well are:

Truck Only: 36-3/4"
Truck / Trailer WDH not Engaged: 37-1/8"
Truck / Trailer WDH Engaged: 37"

There are currently 6 spacer washers installed.

Another question I have involves the height of the hitch....with the current setup the low point is 8-3/4" from the ground. Is this too low?





Old 09-29-2020, 07:18 PM
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From my perspective I think the TW is too high at 15%. I would try to shift weight in the front of the trailer towards the axles to achieve maybe 13%. I much prefer a lower tongue weight and use less WDH tension for stability and safety reasons. When you get the loading correct sway at lower TW % shouldn’t be a problem. I run my trailer at 8,000 lbs total weight with 11.7% TW and recover less then 50% lost to the front axle. No stability problems what so ever.
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Judging from the pics looks like your trailer is tipped a bit too much nose down, what does a 2' level show when put on the TT floor?
I run my setup different from 8100 my tongue weight (using a Sher-line scale) is 950lbs with a loaded TT of 6100lbs so 15.5% and it tows just fine. I return about 80% of the weight back onto the front axle with the WDH. just my 2 cents
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I agree that the tongue is sitting too low to the ground.

Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".

If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?

I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.

Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
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Looks like you need to move that hitch head needs to be raised one hole. What i the weight rating of your bars? 1000/10000lbs?
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From the pics, it does look like you are a bit nose down on the trailer and nose up on the truck.
Add another washer to tilt the spring bars down a bit pushing pressure in both directions if the manual permits that.
Per Ford guidance, you need to return your front wheel well at least by 1/2.
You may need to raise your hitch trunnion head up a hole. The WDH manual setup procedure usually starts with the truck and trailer on a level surface, measuring the height of the ball coupler on the level trailer. That is used to set the truck ball height. Top of the ball is set to the inside top of the coupler, plus maybe a specific added amount. For my WDH, it says to set the ball top a minimum of one inch higher than the inside of the trailer coupler to allow for squat.

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Originally Posted by clarkbre
I agree that the tongue is sitting too low to the ground.

Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".

If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?

I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.

Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
the hitch is an Equalizer 4pt....purchased a 1200/12K but In looking at the shank it is stamped 1400/14K.

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Originally Posted by Mister C
the hitch is an Equalizer 4pt....purchased a 1200/12K but In looking at the shank it is stamped 1400/14K.
The shank, head and ball will meet the max rating at 1400/14k but the bars are likely less than that. Case in point, my Husky Centerline TS was advertised for trailer with a GVW of 6k-8k pounds....mine weighed 7500....perfect....not really. The bars that came with it were rated for a 600-800 tongue weight. Loaded, my trailer exceeded that. 800-1200 bars made a world of difference.

In your case, the bars are likely too small to effectively transfer weight, making them useless. Based on your measured tongue weight, i would buy the bars that meet or exceed that weight and reset the hitch.

Here is a link to Etrailer's available bars for the 4pt Equalizer.
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That trailer should be level. I'm running an Andersen on my setup, and the trailer is perfectly level when loaded. I would go to the setup instructions and run through them slowly. This is actually the first time I have ever done that, and wow, what a difference. Before, I just eyeballed it.


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