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#11
Senior Member
My primary reason for posting is that after reading forums these past couple of years, I have a general mistrust of shops doing the hitch setup work. I have yet to see any of them even take a measurement to the wheel well before and after to check things, so was interested in giving it a go myself.
#12
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Truck Only: 36-3/4"
Truck / Trailer WDH not Engaged: 37-1/8"
Truck / Trailer WDH Engaged: 37"
There are currently 6 spacer washers installed.
Another question I have involves the height of the hitch....with the current setup the low point is 8-3/4" from the ground. Is this too low?
#13
From my perspective I think the TW is too high at 15%. I would try to shift weight in the front of the trailer towards the axles to achieve maybe 13%. I much prefer a lower tongue weight and use less WDH tension for stability and safety reasons. When you get the loading correct sway at lower TW % shouldn’t be a problem. I run my trailer at 8,000 lbs total weight with 11.7% TW and recover less then 50% lost to the front axle. No stability problems what so ever.
#14
Judging from the pics looks like your trailer is tipped a bit too much nose down, what does a 2' level show when put on the TT floor?
I run my setup different from 8100 my tongue weight (using a Sher-line scale) is 950lbs with a loaded TT of 6100lbs so 15.5% and it tows just fine. I return about 80% of the weight back onto the front axle with the WDH. just my 2 cents
I run my setup different from 8100 my tongue weight (using a Sher-line scale) is 950lbs with a loaded TT of 6100lbs so 15.5% and it tows just fine. I return about 80% of the weight back onto the front axle with the WDH. just my 2 cents
#15
Senior Member
I agree that the tongue is sitting too low to the ground.
Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".
If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?
I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.
Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".
If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?
I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.
Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
#17
Senior Member
From the pics, it does look like you are a bit nose down on the trailer and nose up on the truck.
Add another washer to tilt the spring bars down a bit pushing pressure in both directions if the manual permits that.
Per Ford guidance, you need to return your front wheel well at least by 1/2.
You may need to raise your hitch trunnion head up a hole. The WDH manual setup procedure usually starts with the truck and trailer on a level surface, measuring the height of the ball coupler on the level trailer. That is used to set the truck ball height. Top of the ball is set to the inside top of the coupler, plus maybe a specific added amount. For my WDH, it says to set the ball top a minimum of one inch higher than the inside of the trailer coupler to allow for squat.
Add another washer to tilt the spring bars down a bit pushing pressure in both directions if the manual permits that.
Per Ford guidance, you need to return your front wheel well at least by 1/2.
You may need to raise your hitch trunnion head up a hole. The WDH manual setup procedure usually starts with the truck and trailer on a level surface, measuring the height of the ball coupler on the level trailer. That is used to set the truck ball height. Top of the ball is set to the inside top of the coupler, plus maybe a specific added amount. For my WDH, it says to set the ball top a minimum of one inch higher than the inside of the trailer coupler to allow for squat.
Last edited by Boomerweps; 09-29-2020 at 11:31 PM.
#18
Senior Member
Thread Starter
I agree that the tongue is sitting too low to the ground.
Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".
If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?
I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.
Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
Based on your measurements, your fender height with the WDH engaged should be at or below 36 7/8".
If your hitch is already using 6 washers, the perches are set that high, it looks like your trunnion bars are incorrect for the weight of the tongue. Have you specified exactly the make/model of hitch and the GVW or tongue weight its rated for?
I have a Husky Centerline TS and started with the 600-800 lbs bars. It was difficult to adjust properly. Purchasing the 800-1200 lbs bars really helped and allowed for a lot less tension because the bars were stiffer.
Bottom line, it appears your bars may not be enough to distribute the heavy weight of the tongue.
Last edited by Mister C; 09-29-2020 at 11:54 PM.
#19
Senior Member
In your case, the bars are likely too small to effectively transfer weight, making them useless. Based on your measured tongue weight, i would buy the bars that meet or exceed that weight and reset the hitch.
Here is a link to Etrailer's available bars for the 4pt Equalizer.
SPRING BAR LINK
#20
That trailer should be level. I'm running an Andersen on my setup, and the trailer is perfectly level when loaded. I would go to the setup instructions and run through them slowly. This is actually the first time I have ever done that, and wow, what a difference. Before, I just eyeballed it.