Another Towing Topic!
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Just for giggles I looked at a couple 2021 SDs at the local Ford lot.
Equipped like my F150 + 4x4 + 6.2 is about 10k more than I paid.
An XLT + 4x4 + 7.3 is about 15k more than I paid.
To upgrade to the XLT would be about 22k out of pocket considing trade in, discounts, TTL.
Equipped like my F150 + 4x4 + 6.2 is about 10k more than I paid.
An XLT + 4x4 + 7.3 is about 15k more than I paid.
To upgrade to the XLT would be about 22k out of pocket considing trade in, discounts, TTL.
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Most Western mountain towing is in the elevation range of 7,000 to 11,000 feet. Summertime daytime density altitude is in the 9,000 to 15,000 feet range and a NA engine produces only 55 to 60% power. Flat roads are not common. Rather, half the road miles you are towing uphill. Not necessarily as steep as the challenge but requiring near maximum available power and RPM just to go.
But don't get me wrong. The center part of Colorado is all over 8000ft, with paved roads to campgrounds well over 10k, and parts of WY, ID, and MT having their share of elevation, like the Beartooth Highway. But extreme towing conditions are the exception, rather than the rule, and there are many mountain roads with mild undulations, rather than constant up and down.
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Im going to drive from Loveland up Hwy 34 to Estes Park and into Rocky Mtn National Park. Thats going from @5500ft to 9400+ ft and as much as 11000+ ft.
I went to HS in Loveland and havent been back since 85, I still have family and friends there.
Its not uncommon to have summer snow.
I went to HS in Loveland and havent been back since 85, I still have family and friends there.
Its not uncommon to have summer snow.
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Im going to drive from Loveland up Hwy 34 to Estes Park and into Rocky Mtn National Park. Thats going from @5500ft to 9400+ ft and as much as 11000+ ft.
I went to HS in Loveland and havent been back since 85, I still have family and friends there.
Its not uncommon to have summer snow.
I went to HS in Loveland and havent been back since 85, I still have family and friends there.
Its not uncommon to have summer snow.
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My 2020 STX Supercab 5.0/3.31 locking axle/towing package has a GVWR of 6800# with a payload capacity of 2140#, towing capacity 9100#.
The TT I have my eye on is a Apex 265RBBS. 31' length, UVW 5652, GVWR 7600.
The guys on iRV are telling me this is to much weight for my F150 to handle.
I plan on trips into the Rockies well above 5000' in May/Jun every year. Rocky Mtn National Park, Yellowstone, Vail, Silverton and trips out west to Crater Lake, Rushmore and the Columbia River Gorge.
From my point of view a Class C with a V10 or 6.0 Chevy is hauling more weight, especially with a TOAD with less power/torque and with a 5 or 6 speed transmission.than my 5.0 with a 10 speed.
Is anyone here doing the type of towing that I plan on doing with the same combination?
If so, how is it working out for you?
The TT I have my eye on is a Apex 265RBBS. 31' length, UVW 5652, GVWR 7600.
The guys on iRV are telling me this is to much weight for my F150 to handle.
I plan on trips into the Rockies well above 5000' in May/Jun every year. Rocky Mtn National Park, Yellowstone, Vail, Silverton and trips out west to Crater Lake, Rushmore and the Columbia River Gorge.
From my point of view a Class C with a V10 or 6.0 Chevy is hauling more weight, especially with a TOAD with less power/torque and with a 5 or 6 speed transmission.than my 5.0 with a 10 speed.
Is anyone here doing the type of towing that I plan on doing with the same combination?
If so, how is it working out for you?
In my own case I load my truck to the max, (and it behaves very well) discovered it's really really hard to add more than a 1000lbs of stuff to a camper (verifying with a CAT scale) so using the GVWR of the camper really is as worthless as the dry weight. to say you can or can't tow it. Based on what you said about being minimalist I doubt you'll add amore than a 1000lbs either.
Safe travels.