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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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My 2020 STX Supercab 5.0/3.31 locking axle/towing package has a GVWR of 6800# with a payload capacity of 2140#, towing capacity 9100#.

The TT I have my eye on is a Apex 265RBBS. 31' length, UVW 5652, GVWR 7600.

The guys on iRV are telling me this is to much weight for my F150 to handle.

I plan on trips into the Rockies well above 5000' in May/Jun every year. Rocky Mtn National Park, Yellowstone, Vail, Silverton and trips out west to Crater Lake, Rushmore and the Columbia River Gorge.

From my point of view a Class C with a V10 or 6.0 Chevy is hauling more weight, especially with a TOAD with less power/torque and with a 5 or 6 speed transmission.than my 5.0 with a 10 speed.

Is anyone here doing the type of towing that I plan on doing with the same combination?

If so, how is it working out for you?
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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Just to clarify, the yellow sticker on your doorjamb says 2,140 pounds?
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:35 PM
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You'll be sorry. Listen to the guys in iRV, their knowledge is accurate. I feel I have more truck and I would not do what you plan to on flat Midwest land. No way in windy elevation. I also recommend that you verify that payload.
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:38 PM
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That's one heck of a payload (over 2000lbs) on a light duty 6800lb truck. I have far too many accessories because my 7200 truck only has 1500 payload.

I think you read the wrong line item!


In my opinion, the 5.0 is going to struggle to carry an 8,000lb trailer to all the high elevation places you have listed.
You should practice becoming a fantastic shifter as you will continually be locking out gears to make the grades.
From your planned locations, Vail will be a tough one. The journey west to Crater lake shouldn't be any issue.

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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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Its 2039 on the yellow door sticker.

I was reading off my notes and I have a bunch of numbers on the page.



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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 06:03 PM
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Impressive payload. I still feel that is a lot of trailer for your truck. I googled that trailer, very nice. The problem with big lightweight trailers are, the wind throws them like a ragdoll, and no disrespect, our F150s are just that, F150s that get pushed around fairly easy being 11' tall and 30' long, like a sail. Maybe get on a Coachman forum and talk to people with very similar trailer and see what they use. Your 3.31 gears will not be the best as well. We hate to advise you not to do it, traveling west sounds like a fantastic trip or trips, but you buy something that your truck barely handles on a good day, murphy always creeps his ugly side and can make some realy bad towing days. Good for you doing your homework. I have not loaded my truck to this extent, but I also am on a RV Forum and the stories people have with undersized trucks, weather, semi-trucks, heat, 5-6% grades, no way would I pull that trailer out west unless I had a 3/4 ton.
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 06:44 PM
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The truck can handle the trailer. Hopefully you have extensive experience towing a travel trailer and can do it safely with that long of a rig.
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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I looked your trailer up Same weights (dry, CCC, and GVWR)as mine but your 2 feet longer. I do have a 3.5 and taller rear axle so it's not apples to apples but I have no issues pulling mine. I feel the suck push of semis but nothing to require setting down my cup of coffee to put 2 hands on the wheel.

Question for you? are you the type that needs to bring the entire house with you? If so you'll likely get close in weight to the 7600 GVWR. It's just the wife and I so for a weeks trip the trailer only weighs 800lbs more than the dry weight label from the factory. (6200lbs traveling weight) Groceries, clothes, 15 gallons of fresh water to use the toilet as we travel. Battery, 2 20lb propane tanks, 15 gallons of water is is roughly 275 lbs so that leaves us 525 lbs of clothes, groceries, cooking stuff. I point this out because you'd really have to stuff that trailer to get it close to 7600lbs. needing all tanks filled with fresh water and waste water.
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 09:55 PM
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I think you will be well within spec to pull that trailer. I have a lariat 3.5 max tow with only 1595lb payload. My trailer is 30ft long and about 6900 dry with a dry hitch weight of 850ish I believe loaded I am about 8500lbs loaded. If I haul my generator, traeger, fuel and trailer loaded with family I am about 200lbs over gvwr. I am usually border line gvwr for a regular weekend camping. The trailer your looking at is the same length but quite a bit lighter and you have much higher payload. I think it will tow great. Especially since you have the 10 speed behind that 5.0. Can you feel it behind you on a winday day..... Absolutely you can but I had a 2500 before this truck and I felt it with that truck also. I have been very impressed how my f150 has handled this trailer.
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Old Dec 31, 2020 | 10:40 PM
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We are minimalists. If you walked into our house you would think we had been robbed. We only have what we need and use. We are not collectors and dont buy stuff to look at.

We would only take what we need, probably extra clothes because we would hit a laundry mat every 2 weeks. Tools, 2000w Honda generator and maybe a portable solar panel.

I chose this truck because of the large rear seat area for our two dachshunds, the payload and the 5.0/10 spd. The STX is perfect for us, has what we need and nothing else.

The Apex 215RBK weighs in at 6500# and is 2.5' shorter. I lose the sofa but it still carries the same amount of fresh water and 70 gal of waste water vs 105 gals and keeps the outside kitchen.

Although I love bacon, I dont want to drive the pups crazy by having bacon smell inside all day. Its also Carlys birthday today, she is one.





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