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Old 01-09-2019, 01:40 PM
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In your first post, you ask about increasing “safety and comfort factor.” I don’t know what a hitch has to do with comfort factor, or how to quantify such a thing, but increasing your safety margin is a fine pursuit. The trouble is, the person best-suited to provide information about what to upgrade is you. Because no one else knows how your truck is equipped. With that in mind, they’re all saying that the hitch is not your weakest link, and they’re probably right.

You can’t legally exceed your payload or tow ratings. But you can upgrade your components to increase your safety margin. I wanted to increase the safety margin for the payload of my truck. So I reviewed the capacities of all of the components that contribute to payload: rear axle, springs, tires, and wheels. My rear axle is rated at 4,500 lbs, is the most difficult and most expensive to change, and is not the weakest-rated component. So I left it alone. I replaced the tires, the wheels, and added a leaf to each side, so that each of those components individually exceeds 4,500 lbs. My rear axle is now the lowest-rated component that contributes to payload. I’m not going to exceed my payload, but I’ve increased my safety margin.

You want to increase your towing safety margin? Figure out what contributes to its rating. Find the weakest link. Start by replacing that. If I had decided to replace my axle first, I would have spent a bunch of money and done nothing to increase my payload safety margin, or “effective payload,” if you want. No one’s going to tell you what you want to hear if what you want to hear is, “sure, all you need to do is change your hitch, and you can tow more.” Sorry that you think the answers you’re getting are stupid. Maybe some introspection is due.

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Originally Posted by KG7BTU
The long bed XL is good from an available payload aspect.

The problems are the engine choice and the rear axle ratio. Those aren't best suited for "heavy" hauling. I don't know what your gross vehicle weight is, but some of the 2.7l engines come with a light duty frame too.

Ill be well within the actual weight ratings.

Im not a weekend warrior.
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In your first post, you ask about increasing “safety and comfort factor.” I don’t know what a hitch has to do with comfort factor, or how to quantify such a thing, but increasing your safety margin is a fine pursuit. The trouble is, the person best-suited to provide information about what to upgrade is you. Because no one else knows how your truck is equipped. With that in mind, they’re all saying that the hitch is not your weakest link, and they’re probably right.

You can’t legally exceed your payload or tow ratings. But you can upgrade your components to increase your safety margin. I wanted to increase the safety margin for the payload of my truck. So I reviewed the capacities of all of the components that contribute to payload: rear axle, springs, tires, and wheels. My rear axle is rated at 4,500 lbs, is the most difficult and most expensive to change, and is not the weakest-rated component. So I left it alone. I replaced the tires, the wheels, and added a leaf to each side, so that each of those components individually exceeds 4,500 lbs. My rear axle is now the lowest-rated component that contributes to payload. I’m not going to exceed my payload, but I’ve increased my safety margin.

You want to increase your towing safety margin? Figure out what contributes to its rating. Find the weakest link. Start by replacing that. If I had decided to replace my axle first, I would have spent a bunch of money and done nothing to increase my payload safety margin, or “effective payload,” if you want. No one’s going to tell you what you want to hear if what you want to hear is, “sure, all you need to do is change your hitch, and you can tow more.” Sorry that you think the answers you’re getting are stupid. Maybe some introspection is due.

Without insulting the F150 too much. I’ll be honest and say the factory hitch is borderline junk and should be a class 3.

This truck has way more ability than 500 tongue.

The weekend warrior 5.5ft bed Fx4 may not be as suited. Of course a WDH will help that though.

Anyone have any real life experience with a stronger frame mounted hitch? I’d like to improve my towing performance.

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I'm tapped out. My weekend warrior short bed F150 FX4 with factory tow package and I are going to slink into a dark corner until this train wreck of a thread meets its inevitable end.

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I’ve had one and they are fine without insulting the hitch it’s under rated without a WDH.

Prefer to get the weight up on the frame. Not my first rodeo with a basic bumper factory hitch.


Anyone upgrade to a class IV hitch?
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Originally Posted by Joe Tom



Without insulting the F150 too much. I’ll be honest and say the factory hitch is borderline junk and should be a class 3.

This truck has way more ability than 500 tongue.

The weekend warrior 5.5ft bed Fx4 may not be as suited. Of course a WDH will help that though.

Anyone have any real life experience with a stronger frame mounted hitch? I’d like to improve my towing performance.
You can put more than 500 lbs on the tongue, Ford just recommends a WDH past that point. Ford also says tongue load shouldn't exceed 10-15% of loaded trailer weight. With a WDH, Ford's max tongue load is 1220 lbs. That's 10% of max loaded trailer weight (12,200 lbs) and that's for 2016, it's probably more for newer models. Eluding to your previous comment on "getting weight further up on the frame", I assume you mean from rear of truck to front of truck direction and not vertically. Raising the hitch vertically will do nothing. Moving the hitch towards the front of the truck slightly (thinking gooseneck here) will better spread the weight over the truck since the load point is above the rear axle and closer to the center point of gravity of the truck itself.
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Yeah it’s a weird hitch set up. If i go with approximate ford ratings I’d need a WDH pretty quickly. Not something I thought about till I bought one as my daily work beater.
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Anyone have experience with stronger frame mounted hitches on the F-150? I’m seeing a Reese that is a true class IV.

the only stupid thing going on here is you not listening to solid advice.

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OP, Ill give you credit. You stick to your guns even when they are missing firing b/c you put the wrong ammo in even after everyone lets you know what the scoop is. Thanks for the giggles. Head over to the towing forum here, youll have a field day over there!

https://www.f150forum.com/f82/
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Fun reading. but now I am confused. I have a 2016 F150 SCREW 6.5 bed with tow package and the 3.5 EB. It supposedly came with a class IV hitch (on the spec sheet) and it is definitely NOT attached to the bumper. It is frame mounted. So what Am I missing unless you want to go with a class 5 hitch ??? Why change it ???

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