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Old 05-09-2024, 07:26 AM
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Thanks for that insight and the link! The kids would be super bummed if I removed the moonroof and the tailgate step I won’t be getting because the new Pro Access Tailgate opens in the middle (which I personally want for various reasons). I haven’t been able to find information on whether or not this new tailgate is heavier or lighter than the current one with the step.

I agree that the number the put on the yellow sticker is likely conservative and well under the actual “breaking point” and they are just trying to reduce risk by publishing a buffer weight.
I haven't seen any of the ProAccess tailgates yet. As recently as March 24, it wasn't available with no projected in production date. By all means order it, but you could be in for a loooong wait.

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Old 05-09-2024, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by henfield
If I was ordering, I'd ditch the moonroof next time. I've had problems with the drains coming apart and hate the microwave effect of the sun. The latter I can reduce with a ceramic "tint" which is on the cards. I'm happy not to have the tailgate step.
My gut feel is that the payload numbers are "conservative" based on my experience towing with GCW of close to 13,000. Manufacturers adopted a standard to determine GVWR etc and this standard is summarized here: https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/to...-the-standard/
J2807 is not used in determining GVWR, its used to determine GCWR. GVWR only matters in that the truck has enough payload capacity to support the 10% tongue, 300 lbs of passengers, and hitch weight.
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Originally Posted by JFresh
Thanks for that insight and the link! The kids would be super bummed if I removed the moonroof and the tailgate step I won’t be getting because the new Pro Access Tailgate opens in the middle (which I personally want for various reasons). I haven’t been able to find information on whether or not this new tailgate is heavier or lighter than the current one with the step.

I agree that the number the put on the yellow sticker is likely conservative and well under the actual “breaking point” and they are just trying to reduce risk by publishing a buffer weight.
I would disagree. An F150 loaded to max GVWR and/or axle ratings isnt going to handle that well without upgrades. The shocks and springs on these trucks are pretty soft. I towed a 5500 lb GVWR trailer with my F150 that had a 11,100 lb tow rating and 17,100 lb GCWR and you could feel the trailer for sure. I ran Bilstein shocks and Air bags to help the rear end better cope.

My bone stock Lexus LX570 handles the trailer better with its adaptive shocks and hydraulic load leveling capability than my upgraded F150 did.
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Old 05-10-2024, 04:54 PM
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I would disagree. An F150 loaded to max GVWR and/or axle ratings isnt going to handle that well without upgrades. The shocks and springs on these trucks are pretty soft. I towed a 5500 lb GVWR trailer with my F150 that had a 11,100 lb tow rating and 17,100 lb GCWR and you could feel the trailer for sure. I ran Bilstein shocks and Air bags to help the rear end better cope.

My bone stock Lexus LX570 handles the trailer better with its adaptive shocks and hydraulic load leveling capability than my upgraded F150 did.
Every ford I have owned, except my 2013, handled full GVWR, and close to full GCWR with nothing more than a WDH and Bilstein's rear shocks ($250), some had helper springs, but all were fully comfortable and capable, except the 2013, which was a 3.7, it struggled.

So it likely depends what options you have, particularly the max tow, which comes with the 3 (or 4) spring pack, and works well right up to full load. Far better than any GM I have been within a mile of anyhow.

My current floaty boaty Platinum, adapts nicely to added weight, to the point it's not really noticed.



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