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Old 07-29-2013, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by engineermike
You DO realize the 2011+ 5.0 is a quad cam, 32 valve, tivct modular v8, not the cam in block, pushrod, 2 valve v8 of yesteryear, right? I'm pretty sure they don't share a single part.
BUT the block size is the same!
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jwanck11

BUT the block size is the same!
Is that even true? Displacement is the same but is the block size?
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.... The power difference is demonstrated in the Tq/Hp curves. The power difference to the butttdyno is equally demonstrative.
Yea he sorta neglected the 40 ftlb peak torque and 100 ftlb low end torque advantage the eb has.
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Is that even true? Displacement is the same but is the block size?
Technically, the coyote 5.0 has a smaller block than the old one due to smaller bore spacing, but much larger cylinder heads.
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Nothing against V8's of any kind...but...for towing, the low end torque of the EB is a wonderful thing. Had to laugh a bit, last weekend we had to pull the camper through a construction zone (60km/h) and the EB pulls the 5,500lb camper in 5th gear @ about 1,100rpm.....it's like a frigginn diesel!!
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Originally Posted by engineermike

Technically, the coyote 5.0 has a smaller block than the old one due to smaller bore spacing, but much larger cylinder heads.
Lol. Clearly the new 5.0 is inferior to the old one because, you know, it's smaller!
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Lol. Clearly the new 5.0 is inferior to the old one because, you know, it's smaller!
Yea, and its "unproven", kinda like the ecoboost.
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People still think the old 5.0L(actually it was a 4.9L due to it's 4,942cc) is the same as the new 5.0L(4,951cc). I thought we debunked that myth a long time ago.
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Who here thinks that ford purposely used the 5.0 designation because they figured that the same people who were scared of new application of existing technology, would also not realize that the new 5.0 is not the same engine as the old "proven" 5.0?
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Who here thinks that ford purposely used the 5.0 designation because they figured that the same people who were scared of new application of existing technology, would also not realize that the new 5.0 is not the same engine as the old "proven" 5.0?

That is a very logical conclusion.
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