cdvaight

Yeah. I only drive 2.8 miles to and.from work so it isn't that big of a deal for me. I bought it late July and still haven't hit 3K yet.

BassAckwards

Lmao your the one claiming it as fact, therefore you should have the burden of proof.

Here in Ford's Specification Sheet it says 411HP and recommended fuel of Regular

http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_F150_Specs.pdf

I searched other ford spec pages along with edmunds and other sources. All say regular fuel. No indications in my research that the numbers were taken off Premium fuel or that using regular fuel could cause a loss in 10hp/15tq.

69428SCJ

Why don't you take your typing fingers to Fords website and download a 2012 F150 sales brochure.... as I stated before. It's on their website. Or you can simply Google 2012 F150 sales brochure. Very easy to do. Its a PDF format. Scroll down to the pictures with the 4 engines showing their power ratings. Than read "note 3" at the bottom which appears on the 6.2 ratings. It says" 6.2 ratings achieved with premium fuel". I have pasted it below, but it reformats itself.

This is nothing new!! Been that way since the engine came out. Several third parties have dyno tested the engine and found it to make 10-15 HP less on 87. Some say the TQ remains the same..others say it falls like the HP. There is no doubt it will run on 87...as all the engines will...but this is the ONLY one that Ford's reported numbers are based on premium fuel.

Get back to me when you through LYAO!

Horsepower. Torque. Or even mpg. The numbers speak for themselves. Get best-in-class 23 mpg hwy1 with the standard 3.7L V6, best-in-class 411 hp and 434 lb.-ft. of torque with the 6.2L V8,2 or your pick of powerful combinations in between. With the only standard 6-speed automatic transmission in the class and available SelectShift Automatic,® you can’t go wrong. Twin independent variable cam timing (Ti-VCT) enables precise control of the camshafts on 3 of these high-tech engines to help give you better fuel efficiency and more power than their predecessors. Engineered to meet the most stringent standards for long-lasting durability, every engine in this lineup is proven over millions of miles of harsh laboratory and real-world testing. They’re all Built Ford Tough.®
3.7L Ti-VCT 4-Valve V6 FFV
It’s the most fuel-efficient engine in the class, and it delivers the most horsepower, along with torque no other standard V6 can beat. Piston-cooling jets inside this engine spray oil directly on the underside of the pistons to help keep them cool under extreme operating conditions. As a flex-fuel vehicle (FFV) engine, the 3.7L can run on E85, gasoline or any combination of the two.
17 city/23 hwy/19 combined mpg4 5.0L Ti-VCT 4-Valve V8 FFV
It’s the most fuel-efficient of any comparable5 V8 engine2 and it delivers the most horsepower, torque, towing and payload capabilities. The intake camshaft on this engine is specifically designed to help achieve its low-end torque. It also features cast exhaust manifolds and a unique engine oil cooler for heavy-duty use and durability.
15 city/21 hwy/17 combined mpg4 3.5L EcoBoost Ti-VCT
This innovative engine delivers the highest max. towing and payload capabilities in the class along with fuel efficiency no competitor can beat. Twin turbochargers combine with high-pressure direct injection for remarkably balanced performance. Turn the page for more on the revolutionary EcoBoost.2
16 city/22 hwy/18 combined mpg4 6.2L 2-Valve V8
This free-breathing beast delivers the most horsepower and torque available on any engine in the class. Baja-tested by the Ford Special Vehicle Team (SVT) and shared with F-Series Super Duty,® the proven 6.2L boasts a cast-iron engine block with 4-bolt main bearing caps and 2 additional cross bolts for extreme durability. Utilizing 2 spark plugs per cylinder helps improve efficiency and increase engine torque.
POWERTRAIN
3.7L V6/6-Speed Automatic
5.0L V8/6-Speed Automatic
3.5L EcoBoost®/6-Speed Automatic
6.2L V8/6-Speed Automatic3
HP @ RPM
302 @ 6,500
360 @ 5,500
365 @ 5,000
411 @ 5,500
TORQUE LB.-FT. @ RPM
278 @ 4,000
380 @ 4,250
420 @ 2,500
434 @ 4,500
13 city/18 hwy/14 combined mpg4
Counterclockwise from upper left: 3.5L EcoBoost, 3.7L V6, 5.0L V8 and 6.2L V8.
1EPA-estimated 17 city/23 hwy/19 combined mpg on 3.7L V6 4x2. 2Available feature. 36.2L horsepower and torque achieved with premium fuel. 4EPA-estimated 4x2 fuel economy. 5Small V8 engines of 5.0L or less displacement.
2012 F-150
ford.com

BassAckwards

I stand corrected.

You sir were in fact correct.

My apologies.

69428SCJ

No harm..no foul....Ford should be the one apologizing. They hide the fact pretty well. I doubt that it makes a big difference, but it likely put them over the magical 400 number. FYI the Super Duty 6.2 is rated on 87 at about 30 HP less, but I believe it use different cams as well.

BassAckwards

Yeah I did notice the Super Duty number differences and it drops to like 316hp/362tq in a >10,000 lb gwr vehicle.

I wonder why they tested the 6.2 in Premium but not the rest??

69428SCJ

That's the big mystery. I'm guessing it's a specialty engine that makes up a small percentage of sales in the F150. They wanted the 400+ number and that's how it made it. The fact that the owner's manual says all of the engines can "benefit" from premium is strange. Nobody wants to produce a 1/2 ton pickup that requires premium. Nissan has the same wordage in their manual and I believe the Hemi does also. In the long run it likely doesn't matter. We're talking 2-4% difference. I've ran 93 in my EB since new. It runs better in the Texas heat and the tuner now requires it.

Farm250

I think its a good engine but seems a bit "old" if you will. It makes lots of power and all, but 2 valves? Iron block? Doesn't that seem like old technology? Perhaps a 3-4 valve should be in the works as well as a lighter weight block material?

cdvaight

Look at the engine section. I have yet to see anybody post anything negative about it other then mileage.

I agree with the 3-4 valve statement though. Makes my taint tingle thinking about it. The iron block needs to stay though.

BassAckwards

It's old technology, but its bulletproof technology. Like stated earlier the LSx line of engines used by GM are all 2 valves and look how much power they put out with incredible reliability. Yeah you could put 3-4 valves in it and yeah you could do DOHC with Ti-VCT, but is it going to be as reliable?? I'm interested to see how the 5.0 performs over it's lifetime, and I'd be willing to bet my bottom dollar that a Ford 6.2 liter will give you less problems and last longer than the 5.0. Because if you think "more moving parts" produces >= "reliability" out of an engine I think you're crazy .