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Old 08-16-2016, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by WarSurfer
What do you think the difference is across F150 variants that results in different payload ratings?

The transmissions are the same, the brakes are the same, frames were the same (SCREWs anyway), up until '15, the rear diff was the same. The only variant really is gearing, engine and spring rate.
My understanding is that the vehicle weight is the main variable in determining available payload. The heavier the truck, the lower the overall payload.

GVWR - (curb weight) = available payload. Is the Raptor is any heavier than a 6" narrower truck with smaller tires? That accounts for some of the difference you say can be made up by adding even heavier springs.

For anyone reading this thread, look into the potential legal issues and safety ramifications of exceeding the manufacturers rated payload when towing or hauling.
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Originally Posted by Trailbreak74
My understanding is that the vehicle weight is the main variable in determining available payload. The heavier the truck, the lower the overall payload.

GVWR - (curb weight) = available payload. Is the Raptor is any heavier than a 6" narrower truck with smaller tires? That accounts for some of the difference you say can be made up by adding even heavier springs.

For anyone reading this thread, look into the potential legal issues and safety ramifications of exceeding the manufacturers rated payload when towing or hauling.
Generally speaking, It is the equation as you posted but you'll notice that the trucks with higher payload and tow ratings also have the higher spring rates. Check out the second link. There are multiple GVWRs for the same cab/eng config - based on which spring package is equipped (max tow/max payload). So the spring rates impact GVWR.

My '10 Raptor with 40 bags of mulch was literally riding on the bumps in stock form. After adding Deavers, 40 bags compresses my springs about half way. I have increased my payload capacity. I haven't changed the legal rating, but my truck can physically carry more weight. Given that the payload is nowhere near the tow rating, I am safely within what my truck can control and stop. That was/is the point I'm trying to make.

The average Joe that has concerns about towing with a Raptor isn't worried about being able to tow 10klbs because the vast majority of folks don't tow anywhere near that much. What most folks are concerned with is the Raptor running around dragging its *** when you put a decent amount of weight in it. That can be rectified by a better leaf pack.
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I only need to tow about 6500 lbs. with a Raptor.
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I only need to tow about 6500 lbs. with a Raptor.
Lol. That's below the factory rating for a Gen 1 SCREW. I would expect the Gen 2 to be at least the same, maybe a tad more.
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Lol. That's below the factory rating for a Gen 1 SCREW. I would expect the Gen 2 to be at least the same, maybe a tad more.
True, although I was told never to pull more than 75-80% of your tow rating. In any event, I figured we would be safe to go ahead and order one since it will be more of a daily errand runner/weekend drive vehicle. We'd only tow once every 6-8 weeks for camping.

Just need to find an allocation without ADM attached.
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im also wondering. I have quiet the fishing boat I would be towing and am looking at a raptor.



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