What's up with this spark plug I just took out?
#21
Senior Member
What he shows in his picture has spark plug threads exposed to the combustion chamber. Like half of the thread length. Not directly exposed, but via the gap left between the tapped hole and the plug threads. That can't be right. They'll get carboned up and bind in the insert, which is probably why it came out with the plug. An insert that's the length of the plug threads seems right, doesn't it? Unless that's the wrong spark plug for the head.
The insert in Makuloco's video is longer and covers all of the plug threads.
The insert in Makuloco's video is longer and covers all of the plug threads.
I believe the carbon problem with 3 valve is thing isn't it ?
Last edited by Jbrew; 09-10-2018 at 05:09 PM.
#22
Senior Member
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Last edited by Jbrew; 09-10-2018 at 05:33 PM.
#23
Senior Member
Yes I was able to torque down the old plug with the helio/whatever was attached to 20 ft lbs. I feel like I'm in over my head here unfortunately.
Are you saying since this cylinder has already be re-threaded by the existing "fix" that the normal size sert product won't work? Conceptually that makes sense, just want to make sure I understand what you are saying.
Seems like my options are:
1) Find a quality insert that is the going to match the threads that was made by the existing insert. Will the Cal-Van 266 just work? (I just searched internet and I must suck at google because I couldn't find the product) I event went to cal van tools website and failed to find it.
2) If that doesn't work I need to step up to the Big-Sert?
Are you saying since this cylinder has already be re-threaded by the existing "fix" that the normal size sert product won't work? Conceptually that makes sense, just want to make sure I understand what you are saying.
Seems like my options are:
1) Find a quality insert that is the going to match the threads that was made by the existing insert. Will the Cal-Van 266 just work? (I just searched internet and I must suck at google because I couldn't find the product) I event went to cal van tools website and failed to find it.
2) If that doesn't work I need to step up to the Big-Sert?
#24
Senior Member
Holey crap, have phone hate right now.
#25
Senior Member
It looks like the helicoil insert broke while you were removing the old plug, maybe? you may have the lower half stuck and spinning in the hole, or worse, spinning itself further and further into the head as you tried to put the new plug in. It may be sitting low enough to contact the piston at TDC or fall into the cylinder. normally if you pulled the helicoil completely out, there would be nothing for the new plug to thread into at all. Check and see before you continue.
#26
Senior Member
The forum software won't let me see page 2 when I'm logged so I'll post from memory.
I thought the insert might be broken in half also but if you look at his second picture I'm pretty sure you can see a flat machined surface on the bottom, not a jagged edge. I'm on a full size computer.
Also, aren't the helicoils actual coils of wire? His looks like a solid insert. You could probably guess the brand from the knurl pattern on the top surface.
I thought the insert might be broken in half also but if you look at his second picture I'm pretty sure you can see a flat machined surface on the bottom, not a jagged edge. I'm on a full size computer.
Also, aren't the helicoils actual coils of wire? His looks like a solid insert. You could probably guess the brand from the knurl pattern on the top surface.
#27
Senior Member
The forum software won't let me see page 2 when I'm logged so I'll post from memory.
I thought the insert might be broken in half also but if you look at his second picture I'm pretty sure you can see a flat machined surface on the bottom, not a jagged edge. I'm on a full size computer.
Also, aren't the helicoils actual coils of wire? His looks like a solid insert. You could probably guess the brand from the knurl pattern on the top surface.
I thought the insert might be broken in half also but if you look at his second picture I'm pretty sure you can see a flat machined surface on the bottom, not a jagged edge. I'm on a full size computer.
Also, aren't the helicoils actual coils of wire? His looks like a solid insert. You could probably guess the brand from the knurl pattern on the top surface.
#29
Senior Member
Pretty sure he meant Loctite 266. Most people call it red loctite.
Cal Van is the thread repair kit company.
http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-408...=8803867197441
Cal Van is the thread repair kit company.
http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-408...=8803867197441
#30
Senior Member
Yea Loctite 266, -
Or time serts version, same formulation , ie -266 , -
https://www.amazon.com/Threadlocker-High-Temp-Strength-Sold/dp/B00Y3I4N1W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1536620147&sr=8-2&keywords=loctite+266&dpID=21Z7LAO3QUL&preST=_QL70_&dpSrc=srch
Or time serts version, same formulation , ie -266 , -
Last edited by Jbrew; 09-10-2018 at 08:51 PM.