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Old Feb 10, 2016 | 09:12 PM
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So I just had to get a new ball joint and of course alignment. Is this alright for an alignment, or should I be getting another one? It seems WAY off to me, but I'm not an alignment specialist lol. The top number will be camber, the middle will be caster, and the last will be toe.

Front: Left
Actual:
-1.9
2.8
0.04

Before:
-3.8
2.8
1.01


Front: Right
Actual:
0.6
3.2
0.03

Before:
0.3
3.2
0.95


Specified range:
-0.8 to 0.6
3.8 to 5.8
-0.03 to 0.23


For the front the top will be cross camber, the middle will be cross caster, and the last will be total toe.

Front:
Actual:
-2.4
-0.4
0.07

Before:
-4.1
-0.4
1.95

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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Here is what the paper shows, I couldn't get it to upload last night lol. Is this alright? Or is it way out of spec?

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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Looks like the set the toe, but not the camber and caster. Caster is adjusted at the lower controll arms at the same time as camber. Moving the front in or the rear out gives you positive caster, moving the front out or the rear in makes it go more negative. They do sell the "kits" only make adjustment easier, which are basically eccentric bolts.
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Just an FYI

Camber angle is the measure in degrees of the difference between the wheels vertical alignment perpendicular to the road. If a wheel is perfectly perpendicular to the road, its camber would be 0 degrees. Camber is negative when the top of the tires begin to tilt inward towards the fender wells. When the top of the tires begin to tilt away from the camber is positive. Camber is the angle of the wheels,relative to the road, looking at the car from the front (or rear).
(Imagine a vertical line through the middle of the wheel)
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Caster is a kind of goofy, it’s the angle created by the steerings pivot point from the front to back of the vehicle. Caster is positive if the line is angled forward, and negative if backward. (Draw an axis-line through the steering-turning-axis of the wheel.)
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Toe is the angle derived from pointing the tires in or out from a top-down view – (like looking down at your toes and angling them inward or outward. Looking to the car from the top (or bottom)
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Hope that helps

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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:36 AM
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Thank you. Should I be going back to tell them to do it right, or is it alright as it sits right now? My truck has a 5" lift if that affects anything.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:49 AM
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Jeezzz, terrible, yea you need an alignment. Yea take it in.

You have a cam kit correct ?
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Red-Ford
Thank you. Should I be going back to tell them to do it right, or is it alright as it sits right now? My truck has a 5" lift if that affects anything.

the lift can impact the alignment....
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Right.

How does it feel ?

Looking straight on at it and squatting down a little, what's the toe look like ? What's it look like comparing wheel to wheel. Does the passenger side have more toe IYO ?
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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I do have a cam kit, and it's riding the same way it always has. I cranked my T-bars a little bit before all this, right now I'm sitting at 28" even, I figure that stock the max is 24.25", then adding a 5" lift I can get away with 29.25", but my bolts max out at 28 7/8" so I just decided to back it down to 28" even. Is there something flawed in that aspect? The tires appear to be right, but I'm on a gravel driveway. My wheel is pointed very slightly to the right, everyone is asleep right now so I didn't want to correct it and wake someone up lol.





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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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/\ wake em up!
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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Check the lower shock bushing. If the crank is too much for your set-up, it'll show at the lower bushing through hole. The bushing itself will begin to deform or U. That happens right away and noticeable just by looking at it.

BTW, it looks good.
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