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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Hey guys...new to the forum but hoping you can help me.

I have a 2003 4x4 SuperCrew w/5.4L. I have developed a very slight shutter on acceleration and it’s driving me nuts. I’m not yet convinced it’s in the driveline as I think it could also possibly be in the fuel and/or ignition systems. I’ve read where some compare the “shutter” feeling to driving on a washboard. The frequency of my shutter is similar though it’s so subtle at times a new driver may not feel it.

The frustration in this is I can produce the shutter on command. The dealer says it feels like the torque converter slipping. My transmission guy doesn’t agree suggesting possible fuel/ignition system.

I feel the shutter only with soft/moderate accelerations. Under hard accelerations, if the shutter is there you cannot feel it. I also feel no shutter at initial acceleration…i.e. in 1st gear. Specifically, during soft/moderate acceleration, just as the tranny shifts into second, i.e. when the RPM’s fall to their lowest point between shifts I feel the shutter momentarily. Shutter goes away as RPM’s & speed increase. Same thing going into third but it is slightly less noticeable and shorter in duration. Going into Overdrive the road vibrations are typically such that you can’t tell. Shift points still seem crisp and have noticed no fluctuations in the tachometer.

The truck has 145,000, meticulously cared, miles on it. Tranny fluid has been changed every 30-40K and currently has about 15K on current fluid. The fluid looks and smells new…no discoloring, metal flakes or debris of any kind. Truck has solid drive shaft. I visually checked U-joints…no excess play detected. Tires just balanced and rotated. All lug nuts tight as I just replaced rotors and pads on front & rear.

Anyone have any suggestions???

Thanks, Toby
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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i would try cleaning your maf and fuel filter i have the same shutter in mine as well and will be doing both this weekend i have read alot of posts on here where doing those two things usually fixes it good luck
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by nathanpeters75
i would try cleaning your maf and fuel filter i have the same shutter in mine as well and will be doing both this weekend i have read alot of posts on here where doing those two things usually fixes it good luck
Both are pretty easy to do yourself too. I've done both and I don't consider myself to have any automotive repair skills at all. If you do the fuel filter, do yourself a HUGE favor and go get the fuel filter removal tool from AutoZone. Don't remember the price, but anything over $10 is a rip off. (for the tool that is)

What part of Missouri are you from? I've got family from there and I'm not too far from Cape Girardeau

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckChucklestik
Both are pretty easy to do yourself too. I've done both and I don't consider myself to have any automotive repair skills at all. If you do the fuel filter, do yourself a HUGE favor and go get the fuel filter removal tool from AutoZone. Don't remember the price, but anything over $10 is a rip off. (for the tool that is)

What part of Missouri are you from? I've got family from there and I'm not too far from Cape Girardeau
I'm in Imperial, MO...just north of Barnhart and just south of Arnold on Hwy 55...1 hour north of Cape.

Regarding the mass air flow...I've heard you can clean by spraying it with brake cleaner...but never touch it...any truth to this?

Regarding the fuel filter...Where the heck is it. I want to say inside one of the frame rails but I'm not sure. Never messed with the fuel filter before...though I think I had the dealer change it around 75K during some warranted repairs.

Thanks guys. I'm willing to try anything right now. I'm thinking about replacing the plugs and coil packs when I get a free afternoon but those are hard to come by lately.

Toby
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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I've always been told only use the cleaner specifically for MAF sensors not brake clean.. not sure why but that stuff is not designed for electrical components
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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I've had this happen when a coil is on it way out....also clogged injectors will do this. Try sea foam first....
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by westtnfx4
I've had this happen when a coil is on it way out....also clogged injectors will do this. Try sea foam first....
I picked up a bottle Sea Foam this morning.

Regarding the coil packs...When you say, "on its way out" do you mean they are all still firing but one or more may be at a slightly different output?

About 6 mos ago I lost a coil pack…running on 7 cylinders…and you would have thought the motor was trying to do summersaults under the hood. Nothing subtle about it.

I’ve been pricing coil packs and plugs online. Have found complete sets of Accel’s w/plugs for around $199.

The dealerships wants $97 each for factory coil packs.

Any luck using none factory coil packs…any brands to stay away from?

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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 01:39 PM
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Yeah when the spring like coil inside the rubber boot start to rust it's just a matter of time before they quit. Accel are no good. I buy mine threw autozone or napa. They are about $40 and are good cop's.
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by westtnfx4
Yeah when the spring like coil inside the rubber boot start to rust it's just a matter of time before they quit. Accel are no good. I buy mine threw autozone or napa. They are about $40 and are good cop's.
I figured as much (on the Accel's) though $40 is not a bad price from NAPA. I'm planning on doing all 8 coil packs and plugs. Neither have been changed yet...except for the one coil pack.

I need to carve out an afternoon as I figure it will take some time getting to those rear plugs.

You have any tips/tricks for getting those suckers out of there.

Toby
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Old Oct 5, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Yeah take it to a shop hahaha ....that way if they break one off then it's there puppy


No really I'd start by putting small amounts of penetrating oil in each one. It will help getting them loose. Don't strip the threads. Make sure you torque each one when there going back in. You don't want one to blow out on you.
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