Anybody tried these on our trucks? Thinking about trying the Wardens.

 

Dont do it, the tires are hard to balance and require alot of weights, they ride like **** after 55-60 mph.
yes they are cheap and seem like a good idea.

 

Had them in my old truck. Took almost no weight to balance them and road like new tires should.
I'd buy them again.

 

GRS429, Which ones did you have?
MPBBALL, how long did you have them on before you got rid of your old truck?

 

I had Wardens.
They were difficult to balance. No matter how many times they never felt right.
After 23k miles I took them off. All 4 tires developed cuts on the backside of the tire. Noticed them when I was rotating the tires.

Customer service gave me the run-around for months. They finally offered me one free tire on my next purchase.
For some reason they thought I'd buy the POS's again.

When I first got them I praised them. I was a fool and was wrong.

 

Well I asked Treadwright for the weight of the 285/70-17, and they said 58 lbs. There's no way. Tires in that size are 58 lbs. when new. So after Treadwright does their process to them, which is widely known to add 8-12 lbs. per tire, you're looking at something closer to 70 lbs. So the weight is an issue.

But here's my other beef with Treadwright. About ten years ago when I started running them on my Jeeps, you could save about 40% over the cost of buying a "new" set of tires. That has changed. Now, you end up paying the same, or more for these used Treadwright tires than you would a new set.

Today I looked at Discount Tire Direct's website, pulled up 3 of the most popular modern AT tires in the same 285/70-17 size, and put them in a spreadsheet compared to a set of Treadwright Warden tires. After discounts and rebates, ALL of the new tires came out cheaper per tire than the Treadwright. This is with shipping included. Cooper AT3, Hankook ATm, Falken Wildpeak A/T3W...many new tires are less money.

So, why as a consumer would I buy a heavier tire with a less effective outdated tread pattern that is built on a used carcass and pay MORE money for it? It's a real shame but I just don't think Treadwright tires are a value anymore. They've sort of shot themselves in the foot.

And don't bother questioning it on their FB page, they'll just delete it. If you're in the market for tires, do your research before assuming you're saving money with used tires.

 

Retreading tires, in my honest opinion, is never safe. The carcass has been used and the tread "molded" on? Sounds like a recipe for disaster. The only time I've ever seen and type of retreading has been on big rigs, on the ORIGINAL tire. As stated above, you have more options for less money, and you get 100% new tires.

 

I put a set on my old truck and I would have to say the cooper ATP's I have out performed them. A few things to keep in mind when looking at tires are tread (traction), lifespan, road noise, balancing, safety, and durability. I put 20,000 miles on them and noticed very significant wear, i.e. Maybe 10,000 left safely. The coopers I have now are almost 2 years old and have approximately the same mileage with much much more tread left. The tread on the "Treadwrights" were definitely sufficient for me, and were really overkill. The coopers are fine for me and aggressive enough to make them eye appealing. As far as balancing all of mine balanced out except one, but putting it on the rear really eliminated noticeable vibrations in the cab. Which leads me to my next point- they are god awfully loud. Like you can't even have a mild conversation in the cab loud. The sound is what really killed it for me, and that came from the 19 year old make my truck as loud as it can version of me that I used to be. The coopers do make noise but it is very mild at the worst. Durability wise I only had one object penetrate my tire, so I am going to assume they are moderately well built (mesquite bushes eat up tires down here). But so far I have barely put air in my coopers. Now for safety. There is no honest person that will tell you a retread is safer than an original tire. It just doesn't work like that. Granted mine never blew out or caused any safety issues, it should always be in the back of your head. I really just could not advise someone to buy these tires at a price anywhere near factory new tires. If I had an old jeep just for trails and I found a set for cheap I probably wouldn't hesitate, but for what other manufacturers offer I would have to go with a factory new. I would suggest cooper 😉

 

I sell recaps and I myself have ran through 4sets since I've been doing right now I am running 275/18 km2 tread pattern which a bfgoodrich tread pattern I have had a single problem with them and I got these for under 500 regularly they are 1200 so I am going to keep getting these now I haven't experienced treadwrkght so I can tell about those

 

Treadwright sells both recaps (what people traditionally think of as retreads) and remoulded tires (BIG difference from recap).

Traditional retreads have a failure rate, on road, that is all but statistically the same as new (from the manufacturer) tires (from several safety studies, and NHSTA). The problem is you what seems to be so many carcasses on the the road from big rigs. You don't always see the carcasses from the new tires that fail just as dramatically through as they tend to stay on the wheel and not get thrown.

Remoulded tires are something completely different. They grind the tire down to a point that is just short of the bead cable and steel belts (versus only grinding down the tread on retread tires). Next, they wrap the whole tire (bead to bead - called B2B remoulding) in 1 continual piece of new rubber. They perform a couple steps such as pin rolling to release air bubbles and dusting with rubber powder. They then place the tire in a vulcanizing mold that physically melts and bonds all the rubber (new and old) to itself. This process creates a one piece tire that is almost new. There is a significant cost savings due to the reuse of the casing of the tire and all the steel that doesn't have to go through any additional steps as it is all already in the casing.

--Best price on 4 Nitto Terra Grapplers sized 295/70r18 (best tires I have heard of and used with 75K on my last set) was $1100-1200.

--Trying a set of 35/12.5r18 Claw II treadwright remoulds at a cost of $800 with a 2 year road hazard warranty that basically covers anything short of me shooting tire out myself. If I get roughly 50K out of these new ones I'll break even. I'll see though. I have seen many more good reviews than bad reviews and usually it is the other way around with people that had bad experiences being more vocal.

Now, my reason right now was cost. The 35/12.5 Terra Grappler 2s are right around $1300 for a new set so I just couldn't swing that and new wheels this time around (18x9 Fuel Hostages). I researched and see pretty much all the complaints from their retread line and even then I see more glowing reviews on non-treadwright sites of those.

If these tires are the quality they claim, but don't get the wear I need out of them then next time I will slap those grapplers back on (when I am only buying tires versus tires and wheels). After my research, however, they seemed like a worthwhile product.