the only thing i got to say to this one is, can you post of picture of this exhaust setup. id love to see.

 

Let's cut this guy a break. Looks like he's bumbed out. We've all been there. I'm more ticked that a muffler shop would weld in two additional units in an attempt to quiet down a noise that apparently is not the source of the noise at all.

If he were local, I'd buy him a beer.

 

First person i've heard of that wants a quieter truck...

 

Bucko is correct. One thing that I did not know about was the part about a 72 hour right of recission of the sale contract. The dealership had to go about 600 miles and out of state to get the truck. When they brought it in, they said "here is your truck, sign here". They never told me and I never knew that I had a right to cancel the sale or change my mind up to that point and three days afterward. The service people at the dealership were very courteous and I respect that. It is curious, though, that they couldn't and/or wouldn't explain the differences between the engine from '97 and '08. I have never had that luxury in any job I ever did. I felt I always had to be upfront and honest in any dealings. That way no one could ever claim otherwise. I am dissappointed that the sales people couldn't have been a little more up front, knowledgeable and a little more helpful in trying to answer my questions. After-the-fact, Ford corporate customer service listened to my comments and was very courteous but I was told that was where it ended. No one would call me back regarding my questions. All questions had to go through the dealership. What surprised me even more is that I just got a customer survey from the Maritz Corporation in regards to my satisfaction with the Ford product. The quality of the survey was very poor. It was six pages of "how do you feel" questions. There were almost no questions about any specifics of what makes the truck up. They did ask if it was quiet, but no elaboration was possible rendering that question about useless. They also failed to ask any specific questions including those about the cab, arrangement of controls for heating, cooling, mirrors, lights, the fact that there is a lighter but no ashtray (I am not a smoker, but how dumb is that), the fact that at the end of the windshield wiper/wash cycle, that the windshield wiper stops, waits 10 seconds, or so, and then wipes once more-smearing a perfectly clean windshield when driving in a mist with a slurry of spray coming off the roadway whether on an interstate or busy highway, placement of the door handles and armrest, the center console, performance of the heating/cooling, fan speed, (the low speed could be reduced further to increase comfort), the fact that you cannot shut off the cargo light when you exit the vehicle, (imagine if you want to get out of the truck in the city or country without advertising you are "THERE"), size of outside mirrors, etc.. I am not going off here, but merely thinking that in a world of Six Sigma (quality) blackbelts, ISO 9000, ISO9002 etc., you would think the main survey tool of a world class organization would not be so limited, so "feel good" and idiotic while not even touching on the potential concerns and positive input that the customer base could contribute to the design of the flagship of Ford. It is a proven concept that TEAMS design better products than an individual, and that an effective feedback loop gives superior results.

Bucko is 100 percent right. Drive before you buy and don't let anyone buffalo you into thinking you can't change your mind, whether before you sign and up to three days after.

Larry had some very constructive ideas and so did the fellow who recommended trying an electric fan. I appreciate them very much. I will give them all a try. It may be awhile before I can post the results. I work a lot and have very little spare time. Thank you all very much for giving your input.

 

AREyouSTUPIDorRETARD...sellITifYOUdontLIKEit

 

No, he is just using this forum for what it is intended for: to voice his opinion, and/or to ask for suggestions and/or constructive suggestions. Perhaps you should re-read the rules of this forum. I would not consider the first part of your response as following those rules.

I'll get frustrated when the search tool is not used, but refrain from insulting anyone; I get frustrated with reading posts that have bad spelling, or lack of periods to end a sentance. Guess they all can't be as pefect as most of us, right?

I too work in an enviroment of customer service. I'm a tellecommunications instructor, my job is to train folks on how to maintain, provision, and repair telecommunications equipment. We hand out surveys after each class. Where they seem to differ from that of what Ford apparantly uses is that my management uses the feedback to review my performance, as well as require changes to be made when the majority request or suggest changes.

No doubt the majority of folks here prefer to tweek our trucks to gain performance, lower them, raise them, attempt to put the highest, biggest tires on them, make them loud, make them faster, paint them, the list goes on.

Not fair for any of us to throw names at someone that wanted their truck to be quieter.

My only comment from the beginning was what muffler shop/repair center would have placed two additional mufflers (one was a glasspack?) in attempts to quiet down the engine exhaust noise. A good shop would have talked to the owner to educate them to the fact that this was a bad idea. I guess this economy is so bad that shops are out there to just take the money, anyway they can get it. Sad for the hobby.

Hard lesson learned for you TOOLOUD. Perhaps you could trade the truck in when it's finacially acceptable to you. The problem with changing out the clutch fan with an electrical one is that it still may not eliminate the noise. You would just be putting more money into it, and getting even more frustrated. I would suggest that you find a shop that will listen to your truck, identify the noise you are concerned with, and see if there's a solution/fix. The suggestions here are not going to be satisfactory to you apparently, as most folks here are into performance gains, which usually means more noise than stock.

Good luck. Keep us posted with what you may find out. Some of us are interested in your eventual findings.

 

Maybe you should have bought a Toyota Prius!

 

[quote=Bucko;162936]No, he is just using this forum for what it is intended for: to voice his opinion, and/or to ask for suggestions and/or constructive suggestions. Perhaps you should re-read the rules of this forum. I would not consider the first part of your response as following those rules.


Bucko,
It is good to see someone stand up for the forum and its participants. This forum helps educate people on what works and what doesn’t work on their trucks. I don’t know everything by any means. This forum has helped me very much. I am setting my truck set up the way I like it. Just like TooLoud wants his truck the way he expects it to be. Helpful criticism is good. Rude sarcasms is bad

 

i second this...

 

Here is something you will enjoy.

No one from the top of Ford to the bottom of Ford could tell me why my 2008 4.6 engine roared with the slightest acceleration. Without more research I can't tell you either but this is what I think is the answer.

In 2008, the 4.6 was a 3 valve design. I think the 5.4 was a 2 valve design. The 3 valve was developed for the Mustang and is "hi performance" and by default is high noise. After being unhappy with the truck since November 18th of 2008, I drove down the road about a week ago and pulled into a different dealership than I bought my 2008 from and drove a 2009 5.4. WOW! Talk about your quiet. What a pleasure to drive. I went back the next day and traded up to the 2009, 5.4 4X4 and have been loving it ever since. Too bad the first dealership was so focused on making the sale and not on customer satisfaction. Had they also been honest and knowledgeable and said "you are test driving a 2006 with a 5.4 engine, but want to buy a 2008 with a 4.6. Let's get one in and you can drive it. If you like it GREAT! If you don't, you are under no obligation. We want you to be happy." Well, that didn't happen and they acted like I was the mental defective. That attitude and lack of concern and followup cost them their reputation with me and about 250 people that I have regular contact with. It also cost them a sale of a 2009 and the resale of my 2008. Think about the sheer loss of endorsement power and money. Guess what? They still don't get it and probably never will. Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I found a new dealership that is the real deal with a genuinely concerned owner and staff of professional sales and service people. Even though the trade up cost me some serious dough, the benefits are enormous. Just a few of them are: an improved interior design of hvac controls, radio, storage compartments, traction control, trailer stability, increased horsepower, a six speed transmission for improved fuel mileage, flexfuel/E85 capability, and side impact air bags. If each one of those items were worth $1000 each, then that would justify, in my mind, the upgrade. I look forward to a couple of hundred thousand miles on this truck. The next upgrade of an accessory item I am looking forward to purchasing is a hard plastic backflip type of tonneau cover which will give me dry and secure, lockable, storage. Better fuel mileage will be another plus. It's nice to be back "on the road again".