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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 4x4Rip
I know "tow/haul" helps apply brakes while towing.
Tow/haul does NOT apply brakes. Tow/Haul does let the engine downshift sooner to slow the vehicle, i.e. engine braking.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Fred08
So I'm looking at WD Hitches and Curt 70001 and 70002 and same price only difference is the 01 is 8000/800 and the 02 is 10000/1000. Would there be any reason not to go with the higher rated hitch even though I will not be hauling that much EVER with the Ford?
The 8000/800 would be more than enough, to be sure. My suspicion ( unconfirmed at this point, but a semi educated guess) is that the 10,000 uses 2.5 inch ball mounts, which is an unnecessary hassle if you dont actually need them. I'll look and get back to you.

Edit..... if this is the W/D assembly itself, and not the actual truck hitch youre looking at, the difference is probably the size of the spring bars. I think 10,000 would be significantly too stiff. I couldn't get those part numbers to go anywhere.

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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by f150 triton
I have towed many cars on trailers with a ranger with the 4.0 and had no brake controller and did just fine. How do you think way less capable trucks of 10 years ago towed the same things we tow today.
Well, my father in-law had, as far back as installed on his 1991 Mercury Grand Marquis (and likely before that) a Kelsey Brake Controller. Installed on his dashboard (he would screw it into the top of the dash...), it controlled the trailer's electric brakes. That's at least 23 years ago...
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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:37 AM
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I typed wrong part Numbers
17001- http://www.curtmfg.com/part/17001
17002- http://www.curtmfg.com/part/17002
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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:41 AM
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the tow/haul setting allows the transmission to work for me better, but should I still use it with the superchips tow program in there?
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Old May 22, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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The difference is the size of the spring bars. I would go with the 8000/800. Dont run the chains any tighter than necessary for good vehicle stability and leveling.

Good question on the tow/haul. I dont know if that tuner affects transmission programming or just the engine. If it does carry modified trans. programming it probably only does it in normal mode. My guess is it would revert to factory programming in tow/haul mode. I cant imagine any reason not to continue to use t/h as before. The only thing I'm thinking is that if the tuner is carrying its own trans. programming, it will be like being in t/h regardless of switch position, although there will be some differences in operational parameters. Just figure out which one you like best.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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You mentioned bring your truck in for servicing prior to this trip. I would replace the fluids with full synthetic fluids if you haven't considered it already.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Synthetic is good stuff. It can handle higher temps. without breaking down and losing shear strength. If you have a limited slip rear diff. it may require a friction modifier additive.

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Old May 22, 2014 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by f150 triton
I have towed many cars on trailers with a ranger with the 4.0 and had no brake controller and did just fine. How do you think way less capable trucks of 10 years ago towed the same things we tow today.
Your Ranger and 4.0 was way overloaded if you towed a trailer with a car on it for starters.

Second, trailer brake controllers have been around for decades, you not using one is from ignorance not because they were not around or not needed. They were just not factory installed. My 04 F150 has a towing package and no factory controller, I had to add it.

I can remember the brake controller in my dads Oldsmobile towing our TT when I was a kid and that's in the 1970's.

Just because you did something unsafe and illegal does not make it right, a good idea or a reason to suggest it to someone else. You are not just putting yourself in danger but everyone else on the road when you cannot stop your load in an emergency situation.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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I had an 85 ranger I tower a tractor around town with, NO WAY I'd ever tow anything cept maybe a lawn mower 3000 miles with it!
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