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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 09:02 AM
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has anyone ran gtr led headlights/ fogs lights?
i have been looking at switching to led gtr lighting has a new bulb kit coming out on the 25th it is an all in one driver and bulb, more lumens then gen1 series, just wondering if anyone has ran the gen1 in their f-150's

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Old Mar 7, 2015 | 09:13 PM
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I'm looking at leds to but I have projectors so I'm curious as to the output
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 12:39 AM
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Yeah looking at a picture does no justice almost need actual people that are running them to see there outputs or opinions on them

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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 10:53 AM
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This is true.
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by wirenut2002
has anyone ran gtr led headlights/ fogs lights?
i have been looking at switching to led gtr lighting has a new bulb kit coming out on the 25th it is an all in one driver and bulb, more lumens then gen1 series, just wondering if anyone has ran the gen1 in their f-150's
They are crap. They all are.

many many threads on this already.

Briefly:

1. Misrepresented output - false advertising
2. Output pattern NOT compatible with stock reflectors.
3. Poorly constructed
4. 'Cree' claims - not always Cree emitters used - more false advertising
5. Little cooling fans are an absolute joke - in fact most of the heatsinking designs are inadequate.
6. These crooks ar simply praying upon the ignorant
7. A proper high quality HID projector retrofit will simply blow away any of these POS units, in beam precision, output, uniformity, width, distance and reliability. There is NO comparison - and is what I'd recommend that you invest in if yer looking to truly and effectively improve yer lighting performance.

Have a look at the TRS LED units for heads - top shelf and they Unequivocally state these are NOT to be used in automotive low beam applications.

BYW - TRS does sell some very nice XB Led fog replacement systems.

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/led-he...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f7/h13-900...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/anyone...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/possib...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/led-co...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/led-he...?highlight=led

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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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They are crap. They all are.

many many threads on this already.

Briefly:

1. Misrepresented output - false advertising
2. Output pattern NOT compatible with stock reflectors.
3. Poorly constructed
4. 'Cree' claims - not always Cree emitters used - more false advertising
5. Little cooling fans are an absolute joke - in fact most of the heatsinking designs are inadequate.
6. These crooks ar simply praying upon the ignorant
7. A proper high quality HID projector retrofit will simply blow away any of these POS units, in beam precision, output, uniformity, width, distance and reliability. There is NO comparison - and is what I'd recommend that you invest in if yer looking to truly and effectively improve yer lighting performance.

Have a look at the TRS LED units for heads - top shelf and they Unequivocally state these are NOT to be used in automotive low beam applications.

BYW - TRS does sell some very nice XB Led fog replacement systems.

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/led-he...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f7/h13-900...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/anyone...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/possib...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f83/led-co...?highlight=led

https://www.f150forum.com/f38/led-he...?highlight=led

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Does this only apply to stock housings? Or if I get a quality led for my projectors? Or should I just go and get some HIDs from DDM tuning with a lifetime warranty?
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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I'm returning the LED bulbs I just bought and installed. they are bright and they are pretty, but they don't throw light down the road as effectively as halogens.

The money I get back is going into a proper HID retrofit.
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Originally Posted by 08silverbullet
Does this only apply to stock housings? Or if I get a quality led for my projectors?
It applies to any housings - there is no appreciable design rigor that defines which housings they would work in, except, as TRS states, as a high-beam / auxiliary source only.

Similarly - you can't use these with any effect in a projector. Absolutely the incorrect emitter design and placement. Just so you know, both OEM reflector and quality projector emitter location and orientation tolerances are measured in fractions of a millimeter. By the way, exactly which projectors are you using?

Or should I just go and get some HIDs from DDM tuning with a lifetime warranty?
Please tell me you are joking. DDM, like all cheap chinglish HID's is garbage. And, Good luck actually getting warranty service.

You want quality? Shop here: www.theretrofitsource.com

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Originally Posted by MGD

It applies to any housings - there is no appreciable design rigor that defines which housings they would work in, except, as TRS states, as a high-beam / auxiliary source only.

Similarly - you can't use these with any effect in a projector. Absolutely the incorrect emitter design and placement. Just so you know, both OEM reflector and quality projector emitter location and orientation tolerances are measured in fractions of a millimeter. By the way, exactly which projectors are you using?

Please tell me you are joking. DDM, like all cheap chinglish HID's is garbage. And, Good luck actually getting warranty service.

You want quality? Shop here: www.theretrofitsource.com

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I'm using the spyder projectors. I know it's not a Retrofit but I wanted the projectors and was on a budget. The halogen bulbs I have in there now are OK but just not bright enough for my liking
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Old Mar 8, 2015 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 08silverbullet
I'm using the spyder projectors. I know it's not a Retrofit but I wanted the projectors and was on a budget. The halogen bulbs I have in there now are OK but just not bright enough for my liking
The only truly effective option if you wish to keep the Spyders, is the Retro-quik upgrade on the TRS site.

==> http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...l#.VPyZhHzF_m4

OR - if you wait for their sales / use their coupon codes, and buy their closeouts/b-stock components you could indeed install an entry level retrofit into yer existing heads for under $200, all-in. Which would 110% blow away what you have now, or any LED replacement bulb.

I suspect you paid more than that fer ye Spyders, so, you could have had much better for less from the get-go...

Nothing else will offer any improvement without making the beam pattern worse. High powered HID's or halogens in those marginal plastic projectors will incur the risk of melting, or worse, a fire.

Sorry.

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