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I have a key with lock, unlock and alarm. Then a separate fob for remote start(see attachment)
I'd like to get rid of the fob and have all 4 on a single key, but the dealer said I couldn't do it
I suspect that they're right. A little digging reveals that it's the One Button 100 Series and not the remote start kit that just plugs into the TPMS antenna. What's additionally interesting about it is that because it requires a separate PATS interface, it's kind of emulating another key in the system as opposed to bypassing it for the remote start like the TPMS system might.
At the end of the day, it's a Ford accessory, but the way it's wired and behaves is more like an aftermarket RS.
Edit: FWIW, I've got a 2013 STX Standard cab and added RS with the TPMS plug in and used a 4 button key. They seemed to have installed this different box in your truck, so unless you want to rip it out and start over, you may be SOL.
Last edited by Chrisl31; Sep 27, 2018 at 12:56 AM.
Thanks for your input guys, I know I got this thing in the glove box area.
The jack wagons that installed it (dealer used to contract it out) wrapped the antenna wire around the passenger side airbag in the A pillar, I called them and let them know they already stopped using that installer. Found that when putting in a dashcam, and running the wire. 🤦🏻*♂️
Thanks for your input guys, I know I got this thing in the glove box area.
The jack wagons that installed it (dealer used to contract it out) wrapped the antenna wire around the passenger side airbag in the A pillar, I called them and let them know they already stopped using that installer. Found that when putting in a dashcam, and running the wire. ����*♂️
I don't get it-- if you do in fact have that module in the truck, it really should've been no big deal for the dealer to install it. Furthermore, the original intended location for the antenna pictured was like right behind the glove box and it was usually only installed elsewhere as an option or as a result of a complaint using an optional extension cable. Either way, it's a relatively easy job to do in-house, so why farm it out?
The remote you pictured seems to go to the 100 series system I linked, but maybe it's got both? Like, someone didn't like the range of the TPMS version and opted to have the other one installed (I've heard the 'alternative' RS range KILLS the TPMS option, but can't confirm firsthand) or something like that.
You can throw a few bucks at getting a 4 button key cut and programmed (should be able to on-board it if you have two working keys) but I'm kind of doubting it's going to work.
That's the antenna that comes with the kit and 2 OEM keys with the 4 buttons. I would still check it out in ForScan and see if it's enabled, I'm thinking that it is seeing that it's the right antenna. OEM keys are about $100, a locksmith can cut it for $5 and you can program it yourself, potentially without ForScan. I was just unable to program them without ForScan because I was maxed out on programmed keys.
Yeah, it's weird that they would farm it out. It is literally built into the truck; all you have to do is enable it and cut and program the keys. The antenna only increases the range, it's not required, and it looks like a trivial install. (I haven't gotten around to installing mine yet--it's still wrapped up in the bubble wrap.)
Of course, when I got my first Lincoln LS, I had the dealer add the Sirius radio option (the unit was made by Visteon specifically for the LS). They farmed it out to a local 12V shop, who proceeded to glue the receiver to the carpet under the passenger seat. It's supposed to be mounted behind a spar in the trunk; it even comes with the mounts and screws to hide it away, as well as a wiring harness that's designed to run the length of the car, and there's a cable channel for it that runs along the driver side sill...
I don't think there is such a thing as 'better job' when it comes to programming keys. Either they get programmed or they don't. Key cutting might be another story, I know of a locksmith in town that won't cut keys you bring to them, while the other cuts them for $5, but only after they make sure it fits in their machine and they tell you that if it gets ruined you are SOL.
I don't think there is such a thing as 'better job' when it comes to programming keys. Either they get programmed or they don't.
Some of the Chinese (often knockoff) programmers have been known to brick Ford clusters on some of the older systems. Additionally, if they go and delete all your keys in the system for whatever reason (versus just adding) and your internet key doesn't work, the vehicle won't start until it sees two keys registered.
There's kind of a cheaper way around it, but if that's the case, expect to buy one of their keys.
Key cutting might be another story, I know of a locksmith in town that won't cut keys you bring to them, while the other cuts them for $5, but only after they make sure it fits in their machine and they tell you that if it gets ruined you are SOL.
It's going to vary shop to shop, but keep in mind that we have no idea what kind of chinesium makes up the key you got somewhere online. Most proper key cutting blades are set up only for brass and start out at $100+ to replace. If you bring in something with any amount of steel in it, it has the possibility of ruining the blade.
This, on top of the assumption that it was milled to the proper specification in the first place as well.
