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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:21 AM
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Wow, I would think that people would do their homework before they buy something rather than forever whining about it after the purchase.
My 2004 XLT gets poor mileage but I love the truck.
Some very good and truthful info posted so far. Some people actually achieve and or surpass the mileage ratings. Others say even tho their mileage is lower than sticker, they are not disappointed as they knew what to expect.
My 2010 Taurus SHO with EcoBoost gets better than sticker when driven conservatively. It can be fun to drive also but will not achieve the numbers when doing so. So, when I drive for fun, I know the mileage will be lower.
If you want mileage, get a Hybrid then you can whine about something else.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:32 AM
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People are missing the point of this thread completely. It's a truck, obviously not going to get amazing mileage...However if company A says it gets 24 mpg and real world data shows people are getting significantly less, then I think they have a right to be concerned.I personally don't care too much obviously as I am rolling a 6.2L every day.Just was curious as to what the numbers would be, yet no one really answered,lol.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by kozal01
No the EPA doesnt test MPG that way any longer, they changed their testing process several years ago. They test actual vehicles in driving situations on a coarse. Obviously they are testing in best case scenarios and speeds under controlled conditions which is why they are able to obtain the MPG ratings we see on the window stickers. Also what most people forget is that the auto makers like Ford in the case of the Eco-Boost dont make up these MPG ratings, they receive them from the EPA so I dont understand suing any automaker for exaggerated MPG ratings because they can only advertise what the EPA determines. If anyone is mad their 6000 pound 350+ HP truck doesnt get 25 MPG they need to sue the EPA, not Ford.
Ford does the testing IAW the rules set by the EPA. the EPA may verify but for the most part dont. Ask KIA or Hyundia. They got busted and now have to make payments to the original owners for the difference.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Ford does the testing IAW the rules set by the EPA. the EPA may verify but for the most part dont. Ask KIA or Hyundia. They got busted and now have to make payments to the original owners for the difference.
But Kia and Hyundia where actually found to be giving false readings not in accordance with the EPA guidelines, this is yet to be found the case with Ford. They are reporting EPA certified MPG data, at least as far as we know. If the EPA steps up and says they never verified those MPG ratings and Ford is making false EPA claims then you might actually have a case against them.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kozal01
But Kia and Hyundia where actually found to be giving false readings not in accordance with the EPA guidelines, this is yet to be found the case with Ford. They are reporting EPA certified MPG data, at least as far as we know. If the EPA steps up and says they never verified those MPG ratings and Ford is making false EPA claims then you might actually have a case against them.
My question would be "why are as many people reporting mileage at or above the ratings"? This is so with almost any vehicle you check into.
Sure, there are some liars out there. There are also many that are reporting good mileage and sending pictures of the dash with the numbers included.
In a small number of cases, there is something mechanically or electrically wrong.
Driving habits, everyday maintenance driving conditions and weather are the most common ailments.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by joe mcmillan
My question would be "why are as many people reporting mileage at or above the ratings"? This is so with almost any vehicle you check into.
Sure, there are some liars out there. There are also many that are reporting good mileage and sending pictures of the dash with the numbers included.
In a small number of cases, there is something mechanically or electrically wrong.
Driving habits, everyday maintenance driving conditions and weather are the most common ailments.
Yep, I agree.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:36 PM
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Its a truck.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kozal01

But Kia and Hyundia where actually found to be giving false readings not in accordance with the EPA guidelines, this is yet to be found the case with Ford. They are reporting EPA certified MPG data, at least as far as we know. If the EPA steps up and says they never verified those MPG ratings and Ford is making false EPA claims then you might actually have a case against them.
I wasn't saying Ford was wrong in their ratings, just pointing out that the EPA doesn't do the testing. Kia gave their results to the EPA and after enough complaints they checked into it and found out that Kia lied. If the EPA thought Ford fudged the numbers they would test one themselves. As for getting the advertised MPG, go to a flat road about 20 miles long on a windless day and drive 45 mph. I bet you get it no matter what cogs you are sportin'.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 05:27 PM
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As a new guy here and a new eco boost guy I am amazed at some of the MPG claims on here. I bought into a lot of the peoples claims on several ford sites and then bought my truck. I was dissapointed with my 15.2 average with my Max tow 3.73 at first but now realize its not bad at all. Unfortunately alot of people get cruising on the highway reset their MPG , drive 30 miles then claim 20 + MPG with their truck. Very misleading as this is not real world scenarios unless you live on a highway and work at a rest stop on that highway. Combined warm up time, getting to the highway, and using 4 wd etc will probably get most people 15-19 combined. Not bad for a 6k truck that eats my buddies new silverado for breakfast
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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My truck gets fantastic fuel economy for a truck. And the reason is because I drive slower than most people. I stay at the posted speed limit and dont go above 2000 rpm's when accelerating from a traffic light or stop sign.
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