I think anyone getting angry that their truck isn't getting "what it's supposed to" in terms of fuel mileage is foolish...unless there is something malfunctioning with the engine causing the problem. I get 17/highway with my truck, and quite frankly that's better than I expected it to be. I'm happy.

If I bought a new Ecoboost I think I'd be happy to see 19. The only way they can get the mileage to really average over 20 would be to reduce the weight to under 4000 pounds...ain't gonna happen for a while, if ever. Not a full size.

I imagine these EPA numbers being obtained similar to what the others have described above...stripped down 2X, calm day, 130 pound driver! A small woman, preferably. This new Ram @ 25 mpg with their V6? Real world? My ***...

 

What many people fail to realize is that they dont do separate testing for trucks with different axle gear ratios. Ford uses a truck with the gear ratio that is going to get the best mileage for testing. Someone with a truck that has 3.15 gears will probably get drastically different numbers from someone running 3.73-4.10s. I think the only reason Ford offers the 3.15 ratio is so they could use it in testing. Out of all the trucks I looked at when looking for my 2012 and 2013 (100+ trucks at dealers and online) I did not see a single truck that had 3.15s but it is an option on the Ford website.

Things very from truck to truck also. I havent had either of my trucks long enough to fully break them in but both trucks have the same options/ gear ratio yet the 2012 was getting a little over 1 mpg better than the current 2013 with the same amount of miles.

 

Its nothing to be embarressed or ashamed about cause you don't get good gas mileage,,, its a heavy truck that weighs almost 6000 lbs empty,,, so it takes a lot of engine power to pull that weight around,,, plus you NEED a truck for hauling and towing,,, if it makes anybody feel better the mini pickups get around the same gas mileage as the full size, the last fill up on my Tacoma I only got 14.9 MPG,, and i can't haul or tow as much as you can!

 

There is a reason I have a truck. There is a reason I have a Focus. MPG is a factor in one of those purchases. Cant afford to drive any truck 90 miles round trip to work everyday. Maybe there should be a class action law suit against the politicians that feel oil companies need subsidies year after year...

 

I didn't buy a truck for the MPG. I bought it for it's hauling and towing capabilities. The mileage I'm getting now is better than my old truck. So I'm not complaining at all.

 

I don't know about the laws in the US, but in Canada it's illegal to advertise or promise something that cannot be proven. As an example, Tommy Lasorda did commercials for weight loss shakes in which he proclaimed the wonders of this diet plan. At the end of the American broadcasted commercial he states; "If I can do it, you can do it." In the Canadian version he says; "If I can do it, maybe you can do it."

Now in Canada, EnerGuide presents findings on fuel economy which are prominantly displayed on the window sticker of every vehicle sold. The auto manufacturer must provide these statistics even if it is detrimental to the sale of the vehicle because it has been mandated as fair disclosure. However, it's up to the consumer to research how these numbers are arrived at to decide whether those conditions apply to their driving habits. I don't have the exact specs but it is done on an approved course under ideal conditions.

Daily driving rarely falls in the category of ideal conditions.

Regardless, if EnerGuide rates economy very high, the auto manufacturer has the legal right in Canada to advertise those figures.

But is it the truth? I don't know. I get very good economy with my truck so I would be inclined to say yes. If I did not, my mind set would certainly be different.

If the laws in the US are the same, (again, I don't know) you would have an uphill battle to prove that an auto maker has not acted in good faith. You would certainly finance the legal community with such a law suit, but would gain little for the litigants. I am certain you would have to prove that you operated the vehicle in the same manner and under the same conditions as the original testing. You would have to be able to document mileage, fuel puchased, provide receipts and logs etc.

Oh, and auto manufacturers have lawyers too. They won't just lie down and give in. They do their job well, and will give you a run for your money.

Good luck!

 

No the EPA doesnt test MPG that way any longer, they changed their testing process several years ago. They test actual vehicles in driving situations on a coarse. Obviously they are testing in best case scenarios and speeds under controlled conditions which is why they are able to obtain the MPG ratings we see on the window stickers. Also what most people forget is that the auto makers like Ford in the case of the Eco-Boost dont make up these MPG ratings, they receive them from the EPA so I dont understand suing any automaker for exaggerated MPG ratings because they can only advertise what the EPA determines. If anyone is mad their 6000 pound 350+ HP truck doesnt get 25 MPG they need to sue the EPA, not Ford.

 

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...-first-lawsuit

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/2...0102/212260404

 

Anyone who worries about mileage needs to buy a Prius. Anyone who believes the mileage listed on the sticker on any vehicle needs to come see me for some cheap ocean front property in Arizona. I have never in my life, with all the vehicles my family, friends, or myself have owned, seen one get the rated MPG. It's not unusual. It's the norm. 10yrs ago everyone knew this. Seems people have forgotten these days.

 

I do almost entirely city driving. The window sticker on my 2012 EcoBoost said that the EPA rating for city driving was 15MPG, and below that number in smaller type was "Expected range for most drivers 12-18 MPG".

I've carefully measured MPG for my first 4,000 miles and the average is 14.24MPG. This is comfortably close to the EPA rating, which is widely reputed to be higher than one will really get, and is right in the middle of the "expected range".

I do occasionally get out on the freeway or the open highway, but not enough to collect any data to evaluate the EPA highway rating.

I don't feel I have any basis for complaint.