Looking to buy pre-owned 100k+ SCrew: 5.0 or EB?
02-03-2016, 09:12 PM
#11
Here's proof that they are out and exist (high mileage and surviving EcoBoost's). Obviously, we don't know the history of the vehicles. Would be great if the owners were members here...
http://www.schoeppmotors.com/invento...W1ET1CKE38858/
183,558
http://www.schoeppmotors.com/invento...W1ET3BFC56733/
195,555
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http://www.schoeppmotors.com/invento...W1ET1CKE38858/
183,558
http://www.schoeppmotors.com/invento...W1ET3BFC56733/
195,555
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02-03-2016, 09:46 PM
#12
Senior Member
Highest mileage F150 for sale on autotrade in the entire US.
http://www.greenvillechrysler.com/ve...FW1EF4BFA59421
254k miles, 5.0
Over 29 of this gen f150's listed over 200k miles, more 5.0's than ecoboosts but there are several ecoboosts as well.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point if some have hit 300k, although I've never seen it. There's probably 10 examples on the road for every one that we see with this kind of mileage.
http://www.greenvillechrysler.com/ve...FW1EF4BFA59421
254k miles, 5.0
Over 29 of this gen f150's listed over 200k miles, more 5.0's than ecoboosts but there are several ecoboosts as well.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point if some have hit 300k, although I've never seen it. There's probably 10 examples on the road for every one that we see with this kind of mileage.
02-03-2016, 10:29 PM
#13
how has no one asked you what you plan to use the trucks for? if youre towing or hauling heavy, get the EB. IF not get the 5.0.
is there a price difference? if the 5.0 is cheaper and you don't tow/haul, youre in business. simple as that. both trucks are a gamble at 100k+ miles. engine, trans, drivetrain, etc...save money up front if you can and get one with a service history. cross fingers and hope for the best
is there a price difference? if the 5.0 is cheaper and you don't tow/haul, youre in business. simple as that. both trucks are a gamble at 100k+ miles. engine, trans, drivetrain, etc...save money up front if you can and get one with a service history. cross fingers and hope for the best
02-03-2016, 10:51 PM
#14
FDT
Highest mileage F150 for sale on autotrade in the entire US.
http://www.greenvillechrysler.com/ve...FW1EF4BFA59421
254k miles, 5.0
Over 29 of this gen f150's listed over 200k miles, more 5.0's than ecoboosts but there are several ecoboosts as well.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point if some have hit 300k, although I've never seen it. There's probably 10 examples on the road for every one that we see with this kind of mileage.
http://www.greenvillechrysler.com/ve...FW1EF4BFA59421
254k miles, 5.0
Over 29 of this gen f150's listed over 200k miles, more 5.0's than ecoboosts but there are several ecoboosts as well.
Wouldn't surprise me at this point if some have hit 300k, although I've never seen it. There's probably 10 examples on the road for every one that we see with this kind of mileage.
Damn I guess I got a steal on mine then! I bought an 11 XLT Scab 3.7l one year ago today with 187,xxx miles for $9,000. Up to 202,xxx miles now.
02-03-2016, 10:53 PM
#15
I faced this a few weeks ago. Was looking at trucks in the 100K range. Fortunately, my buddy is the sales manager so he let me take two identical trucks, one with EcoBoost and one with Coyote, for extensive testing. The Coyote produced slightly better fuel economy, had noticeably smoother throttle response, and has a heavenly sound under throttle. It's also stone age simple under the hood, whereas the EcoBoost truck looked like a jigsaw puzzle gone wrong. The intercooler is hanging low just waiting to get damaged, the turbos are buried so deep under the hood you can't even see them, and it was just painfully obvious that between 100K and 200K the EcoBoost would cost a lot more money to keep on the road and service.
So I went with the Coyote and don't regret my decision at all.
So I went with the Coyote and don't regret my decision at all.
Would love to hear about your "extensive" 5 mile test drives considering most of your arguments are subjective at best. The only accurate thing you stated was the fuel economy.
-who cares about engine sound, v8 vs turbos spooling is subjective
-stone age simple? a 32v 4cam v8 with variable valve timing? oky doky. well at least the 5.0 has powder metal connecting rods (wtf is that anyways?) and a 4 bolt main. the 3.5 has forged rods AND crank, sleeved block as well, oh and a 6 bolt main.
-intercooler damage is laughable and hardly catastrophic if a boost leak is caused. what about radiator punctures?
-assumptive not even subjective opinon, painfully obvious maintenance costs on your extensive drives? so you have experience with both trucks between 100-200k miles ?
sold my 5.0 for the EB, 5.0 was great when not towing or hauling. I had zero issues with it and really enjoyed it. the non-tow/haul MPGs were better as well. 5.0 was brutal to tow heavy with, gear hunting and high RPMs with no low end grunt. not good for the Adirondack and white mountain regions with 8k lbs hooked up out back. Neither truck gave me issues though. I had the 5.0 for 15k miles (4k towing) and the EB for 24k miles (5500towing).
Bottom line with the maintenance is that it is a gamble between both trucks at 100k+, anyone saying otherwise is biased by what they own.
02-03-2016, 11:22 PM
#16
Senior Member
This is what I don't get. Why do you need a Platinum as a student looking to get by with a high mileage vehicle? There's probably 10 Lariat/FX around and 30 XLTs. And a third of those are probably black.
02-04-2016, 12:18 AM
#17
Senior Member
Would love to hear about your "extensive" 5 mile test drives considering most of your arguments are subjective at best. The only accurate thing you stated was the fuel economy.
-who cares about engine sound, v8 vs turbos spooling is subjective
-stone age simple? a 32v 4cam v8 with variable valve timing? oky doky. well at least the 5.0 has powder metal connecting rods (wtf is that anyways?) and a 4 bolt main. the 3.5 has forged rods AND crank, sleeved block as well, oh and a 6 bolt main.
-intercooler damage is laughable and hardly catastrophic if a boost leak is caused. what about radiator punctures?
-assumptive not even subjective opinon, painfully obvious maintenance costs on your extensive drives? so you have experience with both trucks between 100-200k miles ?
sold my 5.0 for the EB, 5.0 was great when not towing or hauling. I had zero issues with it and really enjoyed it. the non-tow/haul MPGs were better as well. 5.0 was brutal to tow heavy with, gear hunting and high RPMs with no low end grunt. not good for the Adirondack and white mountain regions with 8k lbs hooked up out back. Neither truck gave me issues though. I had the 5.0 for 15k miles (4k towing) and the EB for 24k miles (5500towing).
Bottom line with the maintenance is that it is a gamble between both trucks at 100k+, anyone saying otherwise is biased by what they own.
-who cares about engine sound, v8 vs turbos spooling is subjective
-stone age simple? a 32v 4cam v8 with variable valve timing? oky doky. well at least the 5.0 has powder metal connecting rods (wtf is that anyways?) and a 4 bolt main. the 3.5 has forged rods AND crank, sleeved block as well, oh and a 6 bolt main.
-intercooler damage is laughable and hardly catastrophic if a boost leak is caused. what about radiator punctures?
-assumptive not even subjective opinon, painfully obvious maintenance costs on your extensive drives? so you have experience with both trucks between 100-200k miles ?
sold my 5.0 for the EB, 5.0 was great when not towing or hauling. I had zero issues with it and really enjoyed it. the non-tow/haul MPGs were better as well. 5.0 was brutal to tow heavy with, gear hunting and high RPMs with no low end grunt. not good for the Adirondack and white mountain regions with 8k lbs hooked up out back. Neither truck gave me issues though. I had the 5.0 for 15k miles (4k towing) and the EB for 24k miles (5500towing).
Bottom line with the maintenance is that it is a gamble between both trucks at 100k+, anyone saying otherwise is biased by what they own.
While the 5.0 has PM rods, they are not the weak link of these engines. Strength between the two is subjective, because the 5.0 will stand up to more power, but won't handle as much boost. Oil pump will fail before those rods will. To put it in perspective, the 5.8 Trinity in the 2013 GT500 that makes 662HP uses PM rods.
Looking at the power bands between the two engines it should be obvious which one is the better "truck" engine. The EB fills the gap between going from a 150 to a 250 in the towing department. Also towing at any high altitude the EB will obviously have the upper hand, as it'll be in boost while the 5.0 will be flagging due to the lack of air. OP also mentioned being in Houston where this won't really be any issue.
02-04-2016, 12:20 AM
#18
F-150 Fanatic
Originally Posted by Spiky
This is what I don't get. Why do you need a Platinum as a student looking to get by with a high mileage vehicle? There's probably 10 Lariat/FX around and 30 XLTs. And a third of those are probably black.
02-04-2016, 04:53 AM
#19
Master Gunner
Thread Starter
There have been great feedback here and I appreciate them all.
Although what and why I want a particular vehicle and options is completely irrelevant to my question posed (essentially, high mileage 5.0 vs EB; but heck, why even get an F-150 when there are even cheaper Dodge and Chevy trucks I can get), I don't mind providing some background.
I may be a full time student now, but I'm also a retired Marine and I still have capabilities requirements and a lifestyle that I'm used to. Thus, I can afford many more luxuries than a typical young starving student living away from their parents for the first time.
Heck, if I really wanted to be financially frugal, I should buy some cheap 'beater' car to tide me over for the next 1.5 years. But I would still need a vehicle that can tow when I move back because renting a moving van will cost $2k one way plus $300 for car dolly.
I definitely need load hauling capability now, plus passenger carrying (I'm the designated carpool driver of 4 other classmates since parking is super expensive). I currently have a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition 5.4 but it's already at 175,000 and want to replace it ASAP before something catastrophic mechanically occurs, before I drive another 4,000 miles round trip back home for this upcoming summer break.
Luckily, I'm financially capable of getting the vehicle I really want to own now that I can live with for the next 5-7 years. I would prefer the new aluminum F-150s, but those are WAY too expensive for me presently; but I can wait.
I may be a full time student now, but I'm also a retired Marine and I still have capabilities requirements and a lifestyle that I'm used to. Thus, I can afford many more luxuries than a typical young starving student living away from their parents for the first time.
Heck, if I really wanted to be financially frugal, I should buy some cheap 'beater' car to tide me over for the next 1.5 years. But I would still need a vehicle that can tow when I move back because renting a moving van will cost $2k one way plus $300 for car dolly.
I definitely need load hauling capability now, plus passenger carrying (I'm the designated carpool driver of 4 other classmates since parking is super expensive). I currently have a 2004 Eddie Bauer Expedition 5.4 but it's already at 175,000 and want to replace it ASAP before something catastrophic mechanically occurs, before I drive another 4,000 miles round trip back home for this upcoming summer break.
Luckily, I'm financially capable of getting the vehicle I really want to own now that I can live with for the next 5-7 years. I would prefer the new aluminum F-150s, but those are WAY too expensive for me presently; but I can wait.
02-04-2016, 05:13 AM
#20
Master Gunner
Thread Starter
In addition, you and Spiky also didn't notice my sig: I used to own a 5.4 4x4 Platinum. Loved it and miss it. Sold it only because when I retired in 2012 and became a full time student at the time, $5 gasoline and the long commute in Cali was killing me.
But now with gas at a buck-fifty here in Texas, it's no longer a financial burden, especially since I live three blocks away from the medical school.
But now with gas at a buck-fifty here in Texas, it's no longer a financial burden, especially since I live three blocks away from the medical school.