It's almost like Ford dealers hate making money
#21
this isn't accurate at all buddy. Invoice, less incentives, less the 500$ you want and doc fee will not make any one $1,000 but the dealership. Your salesman will make a flat fee ( usually $100 ). So to say your a dream buyer is pretty far fetched lol. Just being honest. The dream buyer is the guy who comes in the door n writes a check for the laguna seca on the show room floor. That will make a salesperson coin! Best bet is to wait till the end of the month. If you are able go to the dealer peak around the sales tower to see the "sales board". There will be X's next to the salespeople. The two people on that board who will help you the most is they guy with the most X's and the guy with the least X's. These guys are either a unit or two away for a volume bonus or their just trying to get a sale. You've been educated go forth my son. Gluck.
#22
I have bought many new vehicles over the years, and previously I was a car and truck wholesaler for some years. Here is how I buy new vehicles: I NEVER walk in a showroom, because once you have made contact with someone on the retail sales floor, you are stuck in that chain of command, who all want a slice of your wallet.
I ONLY buy thru the Fleet Dept. I have found in most cases Fleet employees are salaried, not commissioned, though I'm sure there are exceptions. But I have seldom been hard saled or pressed by a Fleet/Internet Dept, tho sometimes they have spammed me a bit with the emails. I have obtained access several ways, and they all work. Sometimes I have used a car buying program, like Costco, or the American Express program. Other times, I just call the dealership, ask for the Fleet Dept, and tell them I know what vehicle I want down to the details, and what I am willing to pay in relation to invoice, and ask them if we can do business. Most say yes, a few say no, but I live in a large metro area, so I just move on to the next dealership of the brand I want to purchase.
I ONLY buy thru the Fleet Dept. I have found in most cases Fleet employees are salaried, not commissioned, though I'm sure there are exceptions. But I have seldom been hard saled or pressed by a Fleet/Internet Dept, tho sometimes they have spammed me a bit with the emails. I have obtained access several ways, and they all work. Sometimes I have used a car buying program, like Costco, or the American Express program. Other times, I just call the dealership, ask for the Fleet Dept, and tell them I know what vehicle I want down to the details, and what I am willing to pay in relation to invoice, and ask them if we can do business. Most say yes, a few say no, but I live in a large metro area, so I just move on to the next dealership of the brand I want to purchase.
#23
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I've have purchased 4 different brand new trucks. This was my first Ford truck and the first time dealing with any Ford dealer. I can say for me that all the Ford dealers as the hardest to work with (tried to work with 8 dealers) in comparison to my previous dealings. Around here nobody wanted to make any reasonable deal for me. I worked on it for over a month and finally gave in and ended up only getting around $3.5k off MSRP plus that $200 doc fee. I got the impression that Ford dealers are just too proud to discount as in they all stuck together and told each other that I was coming. :-)
#24
Senior Member
Definitely not the dream buyer. My father in law is the near dream buyer. Goes in tells them he wants a loaded vehicle and the colors he likes and he just pays sticker. He doesn't like to haggle.
You've been given some good tidbits of info with the stars and the end of the month.
I must agree though, the internet purchasing sucks, everyone wants to talk.
I worked an okay deal by going outside of my 'normal' area into smaller dealership, the dealer seemed to work harder to make sure he wouldn't loose my business to the larger dealers in my immediate area.
You've been given some good tidbits of info with the stars and the end of the month.
I must agree though, the internet purchasing sucks, everyone wants to talk.
I worked an okay deal by going outside of my 'normal' area into smaller dealership, the dealer seemed to work harder to make sure he wouldn't loose my business to the larger dealers in my immediate area.
#25
Senior Member
I agree with you about the hassle of dealing with salesman. When I bought my 2011 the only time I stepped foot in the dealership was the day I picked the truck up and signed papers. Far more effortless that way, however the internet sales manager at this particular dealer was more than easy to deal with. He gave me everything I wanted without trying to push me at all. It was a surprisingly pleasant experience for me... needless to say I will definitely be going through him for all of my future purchases as long as he is employed at a ford dealership
#26
Senior Member
If you like the internet and are willing to travel go to www.woodhouse.com.They sell more ford trucks than anyone else in the country.
#27
Comparably equipped, Fords are cheaper. Not by sticker but by what they will actually sell it for. When I bought in 2010, I compared the Chevy and the Dodge and the stickers were roughly 4k lower than Ford for a comparable truck but when making a deal, the other guys were higher, much higher.
I still laugh, one dodge dealer tried to put together a deal for me and when I told him the price for the ford he said "run and get that deal". He called me a month later to see if I was still in the market and I chuckled and said "I took your advice". That was the best thing Dodge has ever done for me. I'll never look past Ford again...for a truck that is.
I still laugh, one dodge dealer tried to put together a deal for me and when I told him the price for the ford he said "run and get that deal". He called me a month later to see if I was still in the market and I chuckled and said "I took your advice". That was the best thing Dodge has ever done for me. I'll never look past Ford again...for a truck that is.
#28
Senior Member
x2. I drove from Denver to buy a truck from them, most painless car buying experience ever. Even agreed on trade value over emailed pictures. Total time at dealership was just over an hour, with most of the time being spent with the salesman showing me around the new truck (and he actually knew everything about it).