Topic Sponsor
2009 - 2014 Ford F150 General discussion on 2009 - 2014 Ford F150 truck.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Improved Alignment and Handling

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 07:40 PM
  #1  
SALEEN961's Avatar
Thread Starter
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,728
Likes: 834
From: Radnor, PA
Default Improved Alignment and Handling

How does everyone here feel about the handling of their trucks with stock alignments? From day one I was pretty underwhelmed with the handling of my F150, when driven hard it would consistently understeer and hop sideways causing me to plow through turns, after 4000 miles I also noticed some very accelerated tread wear on the outside edges of my front tires.

I decided to buy some caster/camber nuts/plates and re-align my truck while ignoring ford's beyond conservative caster and camber settings and using my own. I decided not to go too crazy but even with what I consider to be fairly non-aggressive settings I saw a tremendous difference in how my truck handled, understeer is significantly reduced and don't get anymore skipping or hopping as the front tires loose and regain traction through fast turns. Overall I'm very happy with how this small project turned out and I think it was well worth the $75 investment.

The settings I went with were as follows,
Caster: 4.50*, 4.75*
Camber: -0.70*,-0.70*
Toe: Stock setting

Last edited by SALEEN961; Sep 18, 2014 at 10:45 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 09:52 PM
  #2  
White4by4's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 261
Likes: 31
From: Cochrane, AB
Default

Pics god dammit!!! We want pics!!! Lol
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:27 PM
  #3  
white08gt's Avatar
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,358
Likes: 166
From: Collierville, Tn
Default

adding the Hellwig 7705 helped more than anything with my Screw 4x4.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:34 PM
  #4  
winchested's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 255
From: Southern Ontario, Canada
Default

Where do you get said caster/camber bolts? Do they bolt into the upper control or lower control arms?
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:41 PM
  #5  
SALEEN961's Avatar
Thread Starter
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,728
Likes: 834
From: Radnor, PA
Default

Originally Posted by winchested
Where do you get said caster/camber bolts? Do they bolt into the upper control or lower control arms?
I got two of the Moog kits which are re-branded SPC kits, they include new eccentric nuts and plates to go behind them. These kits actually reuse the stock lower control arm bolts which is one of the reasons I choose them, I like the idea of having full size mounting hardware and not the smaller bolts included in most kits.

The part number for the kit I used is K100025 and again you'd need two kits to get full adjustment of the lower control arms.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:42 PM
  #6  
winchested's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,848
Likes: 255
From: Southern Ontario, Canada
Default

2 kits per side? or 1 per side?
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:44 PM
  #7  
SALEEN961's Avatar
Thread Starter
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,728
Likes: 834
From: Radnor, PA
Default

Originally Posted by winchested
2 kits per side? or 1 per side?
1 kit per side
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 10:47 PM
  #8  
RLXXI's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 26,680
Likes: 6,253
From: Big Easy
Default

I'm not seeing much difference in your specs from OEM, your camber is on the high side of spec and caster is also a little higher.

Alignment is one of my specialties and unless your front end was way out of spec before, there shouldn't be much difference in handling.

What were your settings before you adjusted? Curious more than anything.


.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2014 | 11:00 PM
  #9  
SALEEN961's Avatar
Thread Starter
5 Year Member
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,728
Likes: 834
From: Radnor, PA
Default

Originally Posted by Rnlcomp
I'm not seeing much difference in your specs from OEM, your camber is on the high side of spec and caster is also a little higher.

Alignment is one of my specialties and unless your front end was way out of spec before, there shouldn't be much difference in handling.

What were your settings before you adjusted? Curious more than anything.


.
To be honest I'm not sure what it was set to before because I installed the camber/caster kits and then mounted the alignment heads and did the lifted comp, but with everything set very close the where it was from the factory I had roughly 3.8* of caster and -0.15* of camber which is towards the middle of the spec.

I didn't want to start off very aggressive so I went to the high end of the factory spec, but the improvement is still very noticeable. Based on what I felt while driving and the wear on my tires it was clear to me that I needed more static and dynamic camber to keep my tires from rolling onto their shoulders through fast turns.

If I still experience outside shoulder wear over the next few thousand miles I'll bump up the camber to -1.00*, but as of right now I'm happy with the handling improvement I have with my current settings.
Reply
Old Sep 19, 2014 | 09:41 AM
  #10  
2012fx4EB's Avatar
Oilfield Rock Jockey
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 79
Likes: 15
From: Fayetteville, AR
Default

I just had an alignment done the other day where I asked for as much caster as they could get. I did not get a before/after printout (despite my request for one, but that's for a thread about poor service departments) so I don't know what they numbers were/are.

However, I do know that this has increased straignt-line stability and tracking just as I had hoped it would. I drive a lot of narrow, fairly dangerous backroads that are failing or in serious dis-repair in the north central OK oilpatch. Combine the road conditions with high winds and an immense amount of oilfield truck traffic and things start to get a bit hairy.

By the end of my last hitch out there my truck was going everywhere but where I wanted it to. Now, it's straight as an arrow, even with a moderate cross-wind. Should be heading back out there for work later today or tomorrow, interested to see if this has helped alleviate my white-knuckle experiences on my last trip.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:23 AM.