Going down a hill. No engine braking in first gear
06-21-2019, 11:34 PM
#21
Senior Member
I think my 17 is a very basic model, and doesn't have hill descent mode. I think that just manipulates the brakes anyway (though I'm not sure).
Static: I will admit that it is not a bad truck; very well built, just different from what I look for in a truck. I would personally either buy something like a ranger or tacoma, or go full truck and buy a 3/4 ton or larger. Also, i didn't say I work on a farm, just that this truck would be out of place on one. I said I work in forestry. Not sure why you would harbor a negative opinion of farmers though.
I'll stop my bashing on the truck... Sorry for that. But is there really nobody else who's noticed this issue? I would really appreciate it if someone else could confirm that their truck doesn't do this. It would be helpful if someone else who has experienced it explained how they dealt with the issue.
And in the future, when someone like Marshallr tells me I'm imagining things and that I'm wrong, even though I know I'm correct and that there are numerous redflags in that person's post telling me they have no clue what they are talking about, I promise to tell them to !@#$ off more politely.
Static: I will admit that it is not a bad truck; very well built, just different from what I look for in a truck. I would personally either buy something like a ranger or tacoma, or go full truck and buy a 3/4 ton or larger. Also, i didn't say I work on a farm, just that this truck would be out of place on one. I said I work in forestry. Not sure why you would harbor a negative opinion of farmers though.
I'll stop my bashing on the truck... Sorry for that. But is there really nobody else who's noticed this issue? I would really appreciate it if someone else could confirm that their truck doesn't do this. It would be helpful if someone else who has experienced it explained how they dealt with the issue.
And in the future, when someone like Marshallr tells me I'm imagining things and that I'm wrong, even though I know I'm correct and that there are numerous redflags in that person's post telling me they have no clue what they are talking about, I promise to tell them to !@#$ off more politely.
06-21-2019, 11:48 PM
#22
I think it was a coincidence. But that is interesting.
I used to have an 88 f150, and in reality it would not have been the best farm truck either because it couldn't haul a load. That's expected from a 1/2 ton. But that truck was built like a tank, and would def be able to handle the farm environment better than today's f150. It was probably smart of ford to redesign the f150 away from that ability since anyone who needs a truck that can take abuse was buying 3/4 ton and larger anyway. But the hampering of offroad ability in the name of driving manners (I'm assuming that's the reason anyway), that drives me nuts.
I used to have an 88 f150, and in reality it would not have been the best farm truck either because it couldn't haul a load. That's expected from a 1/2 ton. But that truck was built like a tank, and would def be able to handle the farm environment better than today's f150. It was probably smart of ford to redesign the f150 away from that ability since anyone who needs a truck that can take abuse was buying 3/4 ton and larger anyway. But the hampering of offroad ability in the name of driving manners (I'm assuming that's the reason anyway), that drives me nuts.
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Lee308 (06-22-2019)
06-22-2019, 12:30 AM
#23
Senior Member
Not exactly sure what you are asking.....but my 2010 2wd did....The only thing I noticed was if you touched the brakes it stopped working......never knew or tried the double tap thing so I don't know that part.....All my 4x4 kick off also when you touch the brakes.....Definitely gonna try the double tap on all now........ Have to read the manuel more!!!
06-22-2019, 05:19 AM
#24
Sorry to bring this back, but this is a significant problem with my '17 f150. One of the main benefits of 4lo is the ability to creep down a steep hill using the engine to slow the vehicle. When I put my truck in 1st gear in 4lo, the computer literally steps on the gas while coasting downhill. There is zero engine braking. The truck just flys down the hill approaching redline rpms. In second gear, it does allow some braking, but it's sporadic, and after about 5 seconds of coasting it does the same thing that it does in 1st gear: It seems to timeout and just steps on the gas. You can even watch the MPG gauge go from 99 to 5 when the computer shuts off the engine braking. I called the dealership about this, and they said it's a "feature" that makes the truck driver smoother in 4low, and that without that feature the truck would be lurchy in low range, ie, it would drive like a truck. They said that this "feature" can't be turned off. One guy I spoke to admitted that they basically don't make these trucks for offroad use, and that they are built more as a commuter vehicle. I would agree with that statement.
BTW, my use of this truck involves driving on logging jobs and behind the gate forest roads on a daily basis. Our agency has a large fleet of F150s. Anyone who says that engine braking in 4lo is pointless simply doesn't know what they are talking about. If you are navigating down a 10% grade with a cross ditch in the road every 100 feet, you're going to want some major engine braking.
Having driven this truck off road a lot, I know I would never buy one for myself due to many shortcomings while driving offroad. The main shortcoming is no standard transmission option, which means garbage engine braking even before you get the computer involved stepping on the gas.
BTW, my use of this truck involves driving on logging jobs and behind the gate forest roads on a daily basis. Our agency has a large fleet of F150s. Anyone who says that engine braking in 4lo is pointless simply doesn't know what they are talking about. If you are navigating down a 10% grade with a cross ditch in the road every 100 feet, you're going to want some major engine braking.
Having driven this truck off road a lot, I know I would never buy one for myself due to many shortcomings while driving offroad. The main shortcoming is no standard transmission option, which means garbage engine braking even before you get the computer involved stepping on the gas.
06-22-2019, 12:53 PM
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Static2606 (06-23-2019)
06-22-2019, 01:41 PM
#26
Senior Member
The Nissan Frontier. In 2019, both the Frontier and the Tacoma.
06-23-2019, 09:02 AM
#28
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Neither would I. I can barely even get in a Frontier, it might as well be a Corolla.
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13XLTEco (06-23-2019)
06-23-2019, 09:59 PM
#30
Have you tried the brake ? It's an automatic transmission. Hold your foot on the brake to keep it from going faster ! WTH ??? With a manual tranny, I get what you are trying to do if it has granny low 1st gear. Like an old hay truck. point it down a row in granny low, get out and throw a few bales on … But it's not !!!