engine stop after battery change
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engine stop after battery change
hi everyone ~~
could I have your advise for my issue , please ?..
after changing battery .. my 2011 year 5.0 fx4 after first accellation, engine stalls immediately at the moment .
over and over again ...
after starting the engine not acceelation ,idling is rough ..but does not die.. after accellation .. it dies right away ..
I am kind of panic now .
please help me out ..
thanks for reading .
could I have your advise for my issue , please ?..
after changing battery .. my 2011 year 5.0 fx4 after first accellation, engine stalls immediately at the moment .
over and over again ...
after starting the engine not acceelation ,idling is rough ..but does not die.. after accellation .. it dies right away ..
I am kind of panic now .
please help me out ..
thanks for reading .
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Joined: Nov 2015
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hi everyone ~~
could I have your advise for my issue , please ?..
after changing battery .. my 2011 year 5.0 fx4 after first accellation, engine stalls immediately at the moment .
over and over again ...
after starting the engine not acceelation ,idling is rough ..but does not die.. after accellation .. it dies right away ..
I am kind of panic now .
please help me out ..
thanks for reading .
could I have your advise for my issue , please ?..
after changing battery .. my 2011 year 5.0 fx4 after first accellation, engine stalls immediately at the moment .
over and over again ...
after starting the engine not acceelation ,idling is rough ..but does not die.. after accellation .. it dies right away ..
I am kind of panic now .
please help me out ..
thanks for reading .
please give me an advise
Try cleaning the throttle body, many cars will have trouble staying running if the battery is disconnected unless the throttle body is cleaned to remove the accumulated dirt buildup that the computer doesn't know is there anymore once the battery is disconnected.
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thank you sir... I will try right away ... before battery disconnected my truck ran great and niely ..so I did not think about that way ..
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FFT (Food For Thought) ...
After replacing the battery did you reset the BMS (Battery Management System)? If not, and the reason for replacing the battery was low voltage and/or poor performance, you may be experiencing a perceived low voltage situation.
After replacing the battery did you reset the BMS (Battery Management System)? If not, and the reason for replacing the battery was low voltage and/or poor performance, you may be experiencing a perceived low voltage situation.
Battery Management System - reset
(Reader's Digest version)
BMS reset procedure with Ford "Diagnostic Engineering Tool":
Go to Gen Diagnostics and select Module ID to 726 (BCM)
Select Service 0X10 and extendedDiagnosticSession, and press "Send Message" button
Select Service 0X31
Check "User Defined" box, and type in "201A"
Press "Send Message" button
For all future reference, do not connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery post. Connect it to another ground attachment point on the truck. That way, the re-charge will be measured by the BMS hall sensor (very near the negative battery post) and will correctly re-adjust the battery SOC.
If the dealer plays dumb, here is the section in the workshop manual:
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal is necessary, such as when using a combination battery charger and battery tester/analyzer, like the GR 1 190 V3.0 Intelligent Diagnostic Charger, the BCM will not immediately update the battery state of charge. In this instance, after charging, you must carry out the Battery Monitoring System (BMS) Reset using the scan tool. This reset is needed for proper engine off load shedding and to prevent invoking of engine off load shedding earlier than normal.
NOTE: If the reset is not carried out, when the battery is charged by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal, it takes approximately 8 hours for the BCM to learn the new battery state of charge. During this 8 hour period, the vehicle must be undisturbed, with no doors opened or keyless entry button presses. If the vehicle is used before the BCM is allowed to learn the new battery state of charge, engine off load shedding can still occur and a message may be displayed.
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to engine or chassis ground, the negative charger clamp must be connected to an unpainted chassis surface or a solid engine component such as a generator mount or engine lifting eye. In this instance, after charging, the BMS Reset is not required. Through this method of charging the BCM will update the battery state of charge during the charging process.
(Reader's Digest version)
- have dealership reset BMS.
-or- - after installing battery, leave vehicle alone for 8 hours.
BMS reset procedure with Ford "Diagnostic Engineering Tool":
Go to Gen Diagnostics and select Module ID to 726 (BCM)
Select Service 0X10 and extendedDiagnosticSession, and press "Send Message" button
Select Service 0X31
Check "User Defined" box, and type in "201A"
Press "Send Message" button
For all future reference, do not connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery post. Connect it to another ground attachment point on the truck. That way, the re-charge will be measured by the BMS hall sensor (very near the negative battery post) and will correctly re-adjust the battery SOC.
If the dealer plays dumb, here is the section in the workshop manual:
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal is necessary, such as when using a combination battery charger and battery tester/analyzer, like the GR 1 190 V3.0 Intelligent Diagnostic Charger, the BCM will not immediately update the battery state of charge. In this instance, after charging, you must carry out the Battery Monitoring System (BMS) Reset using the scan tool. This reset is needed for proper engine off load shedding and to prevent invoking of engine off load shedding earlier than normal.
NOTE: If the reset is not carried out, when the battery is charged by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal, it takes approximately 8 hours for the BCM to learn the new battery state of charge. During this 8 hour period, the vehicle must be undisturbed, with no doors opened or keyless entry button presses. If the vehicle is used before the BCM is allowed to learn the new battery state of charge, engine off load shedding can still occur and a message may be displayed.
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to engine or chassis ground, the negative charger clamp must be connected to an unpainted chassis surface or a solid engine component such as a generator mount or engine lifting eye. In this instance, after charging, the BMS Reset is not required. Through this method of charging the BCM will update the battery state of charge during the charging process.
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All you have to do is let the truck relearn the idle values. That's why it stalls when you hit the gas. Disconnect the battery again then reconnected then start the truck and let it run for five minutes in the driveway in park.
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FFT (Food For Thought) ...
After replacing the battery did you reset the BMS (Battery Management System)? If not, and the reason for replacing the battery was low voltage and/or poor performance, you may be experiencing a perceived low voltage situation.
After replacing the battery did you reset the BMS (Battery Management System)? If not, and the reason for replacing the battery was low voltage and/or poor performance, you may be experiencing a perceived low voltage situation.
Battery Management System - reset
(Reader's Digest version)
BMS reset procedure with Ford "Diagnostic Engineering Tool":
Go to Gen Diagnostics and select Module ID to 726 (BCM)
Select Service 0X10 and extendedDiagnosticSession, and press "Send Message" button
Select Service 0X31
Check "User Defined" box, and type in "201A"
Press "Send Message" button
For all future reference, do not connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery post. Connect it to another ground attachment point on the truck. That way, the re-charge will be measured by the BMS hall sensor (very near the negative battery post) and will correctly re-adjust the battery SOC.
If the dealer plays dumb, here is the section in the workshop manual:
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal is necessary, such as when using a combination battery charger and battery tester/analyzer, like the GR 1 190 V3.0 Intelligent Diagnostic Charger, the BCM will not immediately update the battery state of charge. In this instance, after charging, you must carry out the Battery Monitoring System (BMS) Reset using the scan tool. This reset is needed for proper engine off load shedding and to prevent invoking of engine off load shedding earlier than normal.
NOTE: If the reset is not carried out, when the battery is charged by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal, it takes approximately 8 hours for the BCM to learn the new battery state of charge. During this 8 hour period, the vehicle must be undisturbed, with no doors opened or keyless entry button presses. If the vehicle is used before the BCM is allowed to learn the new battery state of charge, engine off load shedding can still occur and a message may be displayed.
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to engine or chassis ground, the negative charger clamp must be connected to an unpainted chassis surface or a solid engine component such as a generator mount or engine lifting eye. In this instance, after charging, the BMS Reset is not required. Through this method of charging the BCM will update the battery state of charge during the charging process.
(Reader's Digest version)
- have dealership reset BMS.
-or- - after installing battery, leave vehicle alone for 8 hours.
BMS reset procedure with Ford "Diagnostic Engineering Tool":
Go to Gen Diagnostics and select Module ID to 726 (BCM)
Select Service 0X10 and extendedDiagnosticSession, and press "Send Message" button
Select Service 0X31
Check "User Defined" box, and type in "201A"
Press "Send Message" button
For all future reference, do not connect the negative charge lead to the negative battery post. Connect it to another ground attachment point on the truck. That way, the re-charge will be measured by the BMS hall sensor (very near the negative battery post) and will correctly re-adjust the battery SOC.
If the dealer plays dumb, here is the section in the workshop manual:
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal is necessary, such as when using a combination battery charger and battery tester/analyzer, like the GR 1 190 V3.0 Intelligent Diagnostic Charger, the BCM will not immediately update the battery state of charge. In this instance, after charging, you must carry out the Battery Monitoring System (BMS) Reset using the scan tool. This reset is needed for proper engine off load shedding and to prevent invoking of engine off load shedding earlier than normal.
NOTE: If the reset is not carried out, when the battery is charged by connecting the charger to the negative battery terminal, it takes approximately 8 hours for the BCM to learn the new battery state of charge. During this 8 hour period, the vehicle must be undisturbed, with no doors opened or keyless entry button presses. If the vehicle is used before the BCM is allowed to learn the new battery state of charge, engine off load shedding can still occur and a message may be displayed.
When charging the vehicle battery by connecting the charger to engine or chassis ground, the negative charger clamp must be connected to an unpainted chassis surface or a solid engine component such as a generator mount or engine lifting eye. In this instance, after charging, the BMS Reset is not required. Through this method of charging the BCM will update the battery state of charge during the charging process.
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