crashcarruthers

I have owned several Duramaxs over the years and I bought one with DPF and it was my last diesel truck. The mpg went down from the previous years LBZ (non-DPF) engine by 2 mpg. This the same motor only the DPF was added. I have had (3) 1500 GMC 6.2L gas trucks since, almost same torque ratings as the ecoboost. I have a 2012 ecoboost on order. The big plus with the all aluminum gas engine and lighter transmissions is you lose 500 to 700 lbs. off the front end over a diesel. I would not own a diesel pickup without 4wd and get it off pavement because all brands get stuck easily with all the weight over there front ends. The gas trucks also don't push in curves like a diesel. I tow a trailer about 10% of the time 4K to 7K and have never needed more power. I am not brand loyal. I have owned pickups made by Dodge, Chevy, GMC and Ford over the years. If you constantly run a 9k or bigger trailer you should get a 3/4 ton truck IMO. The 420 ft. lbs. of torque of the ecoboost doesn't match the approximate 700 ft. lbs. of torque of the 3/4 ton diesels or there heavier suspensions.

halimer

I am in a similar situation. I currently tow 8k miles a year. I need(1/2 or 3/4?) a 4x4 crew cab and 6.5 foot bed(with cap, 2.4k generator, 2 folding bikes, folding kayak, dutch oven, stove, propane etc) to tow a 7600lb TT(1070lbs tongue weight). There is alleged up grade in the payload capacity in the 2012 F150s. I would be slightly below the payload threshold of the 2012 F150s. I wish the Ford F250 6.2L engine had more torque. The 2012 Ram 2500 Cummins has the issue with regen with you idle a lot(i.e seating in traffic).
I'm am spoiled with my 2002 Ford F350 SRW 7.3PSD, plenty of torque just not a 4x4. I am doing my research and it will be a tough call. No Ford 6.7 diesel for me, to new and to expensive to repair once the warranty is out. I don't like the old interior of the Chevys.
Any additional ideas or comments?

Mark

Brad92

The LMM only had a DPF. The LBZ is basically the same as the LMM, but with a different tune and ECM

GlennRMK

Thanks for the feedback guys. I appreciate it.

Most diesel guys seem to be pretty happy with it.

I agree that the emissions regulations have really killed the simplicity and fuel efficiency of the diesel.

Power is definitely up though. I test drove a new Duramax and the thing flat out hauls ***.

IMO, UREA, DPF and EGR all seem to be band aid fixes until someone can figure out way to make the engines run cleaner.

Seems like the Ecoboost with direct injection and twin turbos has the gas engines headed in the right direction.

Brad92

Good luck with whatever you choose. Hopefully if you choose the Dmax, it wont be like my parent's old one.

bell4fan

Look for a 08-2010 F250 with the V10. Absolutely great engine. Will tow what you need with no problem, will get 7-8 mpg doing it at 70 mph. The newer engines had 365 HP and 465 lbs of torque. I had an 03 CC Fx4 250 with the V10, absolutely loved the truck. Huge savings over a diesel, tows anything you need it to with relative ease, without all the headaches of a diesel.

scramblerX

I had a look at fuel prices locally, Diesel is still cheaper here. regular gas is $1.10/ liter diesel is $1.07/ liter. Thats still too much for diesel. If diesel is 20-30 cents more / gallon in the US, thats crazy. Diesel is a more raw fuel that doesn't go through as much refining as gasoline and should always be cheaper. Sounds like the powers that be are keeping prices high to discourage people from driving diesels or they don't have enough supply.

mrpositraction

supply and demand!

zacharyz

Diesel is so weird here. Last month it was .30-.40 cents cheaper. Just looked at the same station yesterday when I filled up and it was .90 cents more then premium. Close to $5.

GlennRMK

Well I have a 2011 F150 FX4 SuperCrew 5.5 ft box in oxford white on the way. Local dealer has to retrieve it for me.

Hopefully I made the right decision.

FYI, diesel is 40 cents a gallon more then regular right now in Montana.