TommyB80

I went from an 04.5 Cummins to the Eco and have zero regrets. My F150 rides better, is bigger inside, and is getting better fuel economy for 30 cents cheaper per gallon than the Dodge was. This is all my experience with it so far, as I only have 2000 miles on it. You tow just about what I tow (2 quads on a 5.5x10 trailer) and the Eco will handle that load just fine. Good luck in your decision for a new truck.

bell4fan

Like said above, you're not getting a 5.9 Cummins. Those were great engines. The 6.7 is good, but it loves diesel, like said above. The EB has a diesel like torque curve. And yes, put a load behind it, and it will drink gas, but now days, everything does. The EB will be $7K cheaper than a new diesel,. fuel is .30-.50 cents a gal less, and oil changes are $30 vs. $75-100. Diesels today just never really pay for themselves. The F150 is an incredible truck. IMO, it's the Cadillac of the truck world. The knock on it was always lacked power. The new engines fix that problem, and the EB is at the forefront of that. You will not be disappointed with the trade, and you'll have almost twice the cab room as your dodge had.

king27

I bought an '02 Chevy 2500HD DuraMax new. It was the best vehicle I have owned in my 72 years, even including the wife's '08 Mercedes GL 320CDI. Had injector problems and after bad reapirs, we traded it for an '10 RAM Cummins

Bad mistake. The RAM was a beautiful truck, but the EPA mandates and Dodge/Cummins adaptation to them ruined the truck. I believe the DPF regeneration fuel is added to the DPF on the engine's backstroke. This results in diesel diluted crankcase oil. The crankcase level is always risiing. The solution most dealers are recommending in 5K oil changes.

I believe both Ford and Chevy are both using a "9th" injector to put the fuel to the DPF for regeneration. The DEF that they also use enables their vechicles to do fewer regen's.

I dumped the RAM after 6 months for a new F150 EcoBoost, 3.73 rearend.
Overall, I am happy with the F150. It's really a dream to drive and can tow almost everything I need towed. It has become our daily driver. If you put a load behind it, or your foot into it during accelaration, It likes fuel.

My truck of choice at this time would be an '06 or '07 Classic Chevy/GMC Duramax. Don't believe I could make the wife happy with that choice, and that is important.

My recommendation is to spend considerable time on RAM, GM and ford forums before going to a new diesel

Your original post looks like you would be a happy F150 owner.

Best Regards, Ted

thebigarniedog

Well, your question is really should I buy a half ton truck or a 3/4 ton or more truck. If you only tow modest loads occasionally a half ton truck fits the bill and since there are no diesel choices in a F150 the answer is straight forward.

If you tow more then modest loads regularly Diesels are the best torque choice (since the misnomer engine is not available in 3/4 ton and up trucks, a diesel is the preferred option). I know alot of people like to stretch their vehicles towing capabilities (see it all the time ), but alas that was not your question .......

loughman

I can't comment on towing capacity of the EB as an owner, only from what I've read and 2 test drives. The EB definitely has a torque curve that is desireable for towing - wide flat torque curve, similar to a diesel.

I doubt it will tow as well as a diesel but I would say Ford made the engine more capable than the truck, i.e. if you are regularly going to be towing in the 8K-11K range you probably should have a 3/4 or 1 ton truck, just my opinion.

We bought a 2011 Screw w/ 5.5 bed and 5.0. It replaced an SUV (07 Toyota Sequoia). We will use it as the family truck and to occassionaly tow a 6500 lb boat/trailer.

For heavy duty towing such as our 14,000 lb 5th wheel, the 2005 Ram 3500 with the cummins is still out in the garage. I plan to keep that as it is one of the last good years for diesels, before DPF, EGRs, etc. It doesn't get great mileage, maybe only 10-11 mpg towing the 5er, and 14-15 empty, but it does have 4.10 gears and pulls like a freight train. I can accelerate going up hills at highway speeds while pulling a heavy load with no problem. It is stock and will stay that way.

Most likely I will keep the current Ram diesel and 5er as a "matched" pair until we either downgrade to a smaller camper that the Ford or other future truck can pull, or otherwise get rid of the 5er. I will most likely not buy another new diesel, too complicated, too much $$, the EPA ruined a good thing. The new diesels are a maintenance headache, and cost significanlty more for routine service items such as fuel filters.

Our 2011 F150 is an excellent replacement for a Sequoia, but it will not tow as well as a 3/4 ton with diesel.

flamehead16

the Cummins use UREA because it part of the DPF mandate by the government

brass0

No Urea in the Dodge Cummins (yet), Dodge is not required to use Urea until 2013 for the Cummins. It currently meets Gov't EPA mandates by use of the DPF and EGR systems. Ford and GM would also meet the current EPA mandates, however, they decided to use the Urea system to make their diesels meet 2013 EPA mandates now.

Commercial Cummins motors do use Urea though...

Scrappy Doo

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Get the f150, unless you just like the diesel and 3/4 ton etc.

brulaz

Same here. The Ecoboost has the low-end torque but not the fuel economy of a light-duty diesel. Probably cheaper to maintain though.

The FX2/FX4 Ecoboost is a great tower, smooth and incredibly quiet. Right now we're only towing a 4000# travel trailer but get 12.3 mpgUS doing it. Without the trailer, it's closer to 19-20 mpgUS.

shawnw

I came from a 96, 99 (400hp), 03, and 06 (500+hp) Cummins. Just ordered a new FX4 EB because it's probably the baddest truck on the road right now. Not for one minute will you miss a diesel driving a truck like this. It's easily the funnest stock truck I've ever driven. The F150 might not be the most powerful thing compared to a diesel but it's agility and comfort definitely increase the fun factor while driving.